Yahoo joining the patent-suing..

[Exilibur]

to share knowlegde and ideas in order to improve would require a common goal.

I'm not certain such a goal even exists. (actually I'm pretty sure it doesn't).

Not that we can't cooperate... but it's just, when you imagine the possibilities, you gotta wonder where those possibilities might take us.

I'm not sure... but then, I'm not sure about pretty much everything, so maybe that's just me. (but then again, I'm not arguing that uncertainty should put a stop for a better future, I'm just not convinced that continuing technological development is the way to make it happen)

btw, whistler: is the code I write when i make a web site my property?

[Whistler]

"btw, whistler: is the code I write when i make a web site my property?"

I believe no as treating information and ideas as "property" is just Mirage (like rms said), but judge yourself

however I think information can be privacy if it's not available to the public in any form anyway

[Cpl. Shrike]

Originally Posted by Exilibur

btw, whistler: is the code I write when i make a web site my property?

Im not whistler but i have a point in this.
Your website code is made by you. However you send all the information on it freely and willingly to me at one simple request. (a mouse click).
Your web site is probably publicly accessible. Stating no copyrights, no limitations on how i can use your information. In this case it would be perfectly alright for me to request all your web pages and redistibute them at anyway convienient to me.

[botmeister]

Originally Posted by Whistler

They also weren't described as "intellectual property" which is a bit popular nowadays. Ideas simply cannot and should not be any kinds of "property".

You are correct. Legally, there is no such thing as "intellectual property". What the corporatists are trying to do, unfortunately with a great deal of success, is to lobby governments into granting them permission to turn everything imaginable into something that can be bought and sold.

I cannot blame the corporatists, since by definition corporatists want to be able to buy and sell whatever exists. The blame lies with the people who are allowing the corporatist elite to gain way too much power.

An excellent documentary to watch is THE CORPORATION. The film does a fine job of showing just how insane things have become.

We are effectively allowing ourselves to be governed by insane psychopaths who will do anything (and I mean anything) to make a buck.

Having said that, it is remarkable that many (but not all) of the people running the show are not actually insane psychopaths, but collectively they behave as one.

[Pierre-Marie Baty]

panem et circenses

The Republic is dead, the Empire is already here but nobody gives a fuck
Quick, the barbarian invasions.

[botmeister]

Quick, the barbarian invasions.

LOL

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[Whistler]

Originally Posted by Cpl. Shrike

Im not whistler but i have a point in this.
Your website code is made by you. However you send all the information on it freely and willingly to me at one simple request. (a mouse click).
Your web site is probably publicly accessible. Stating no copyrights, no limitations on how i can use your information. In this case it would be perfectly alright for me to request all your web pages and redistibute them at anyway convienient to me.

Just a note: "stating no copyrights" doesn't mean "no copyright". Actually if you want "no copyright" you have to disclaim it according the international copyright treaties.