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Exilibur 26-09-2004 22:16

Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Let's start with the facts:

All rainforets on earth are situated along equator, the only place on earth where the climate is humid and hot enough to support them.

With global warming we have an unique opportunity to raise the temperature of the earth, increasing the water evaporation and thus potentially increasing the areas of earth capable of supporting the rainforests. (Or in worst case bringing those areas up north.)

Today the rainforest is decreasing in size every minute of the day, destroying the natural habitats of thousands of plants and animals. Who knows, the plant going extinct this very minute may have been the cure for the common cold? - Something to think about.

As the situation is now, we, the rich countries, have no way to change this devastating situation. The main part of the countries where the rainforest is located don't have the money and will to make this stop. They have a lot of more acute problems to take care of, like poverty, crime, and child labour. This is not acceptable!

So how can global warming help to solve this problem? - The answer:
Raising the temperature of the earth will possibly have one of two different outcomes:

Scenario 1. The areas cabable of supporting rainforests will change moving north and south. The rainforets themselve will 'move' as the climate changes.

Scenario 2. The areas cabable of supporting rainforests will expand making the earth one global rainforest in time. (We don't know if the places supporting rainforests will keep doing that at higher temperatures)

consider these facts:
Most modern countries are either north or south of equator
Most modern countries are more aware of the true value of the rainforest than those nations not so wealthy.

The movement/enlargment of the rainforest would mean that a part of the rainforest will be situated exaclty where there are governments with resources and determination to avoid it's destruction.

WE NEED THE RAINFORESTS!
WE NEED GLOBAL WARMING!


For the sake of humanity, please pollute.

sPlOrYgOn 26-09-2004 22:38

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
sure it'll increase where rain forests can be but if the ice caps melt then there won't be any land for the rain forests...

Pierre-Marie Baty 27-09-2004 00:11

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exilibur
With global warming we have an unique opportunity to raise the temperature of the earth, increasing the water evaporation and thus potentially increasing the areas of earth capable of supporting the rainforests. (Or in worst case bringing those areas up north.)

this is the funniest bullshit I've heard in ages :D

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 27-09-2004 06:31

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
i say we use up all our resources then our grandchildren will colonize the moon or some distant planet.

Make use of it while were still here :D

>BKA< T Wrecks 27-09-2004 11:10

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
No problem; I'd say we are on a good way anyway... 9_9

TruB 27-09-2004 11:42

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn
sure it'll increase where rain forests can be but if the ice caps melt then there won't be any land for the rain forests...

i was going to say that.. and how about the ozone layer.. which is the reason of global warming.. if it gets more thin you might not be able to get out in the sun..

Exilibur 27-09-2004 14:42

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Now i can't prove this, but i do believe that the melting of the polar caps pose no threat at all to humanity.

You see, as i mentioned before, the increase in temperature will cause an increase in water evaporation. It's is my firm believe that nature will outbalance itself in that situation, thus moving the melted icebergs up in the air, solving the problem.

The ozone layer and global warming has btw nothing to do with each other, as the global warming is made by gasses in the atmosphere creating a shield quite like in a greenhouse, where the sun can get in, but not out. That's the reason why those gasses are typically called greenhouse gasses.

The ozon layer has (almost) nothing to do with greenhousegasses. it's a layer of Oł particles in the upper atmosphere. Gasses like clorine (i think) tend to react with ozone, destroying that layer.

Now, people usually think of the removal of the ozonlayer as something bad and evil. That is not quite correct. You see, from an enviremental point of view, a dose of radiation is not neccesarely a bad thing. When radiation hits a body, it may hit tiny pieces of the dna-string each cell contain. Most animals have a duplicate of each dnastring in each cell, so when just one part of the dnastring is knocked out, nothing will probably happen. When two identical pieces are knocked out, we have a much bigger problem, since that usually leads to mutations. I probably still won't affect anything, since most of our dna is junk and not used, but if it does affect, then we'll have mutating cells.

That either leads to cancer or to mutated kids.

So why isn't this evil?

Well first of all, I'm sure it isn't that difficult to make a strong sunblock that will prevent humans from getting cancer.

Second of all, mutations is the basis of all species. When an animal mutates, it might be lucky and have advantages, instead of extra legs and eyes everywhere. Right now, the number of different animal species are falling steadily. If we destroy the ozone layer, that will create millions of mutants to inhabit our rainforestcovered lands, delivering brand new discoveries in medicin each day!

I hope you see just how much our shortsighted solutions are helping us in the long run!

Please don't hesitate to write if you have any more concerns ;)

sPlOrYgOn 27-09-2004 14:50

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
the melting of icecaps is not a good thing..
it dilutes the salt water so much that all the oceans will have a very low level of salt.
and that means the oceans can be frozen..
It'll start from the caps then move all over..
what you get is an ice age..

and also if the caps are hot the ocean "convyer belts" stop moving and water near the caps no longer drop to the bottom of the ocean and travel to the equator where it warms the water and the water raises to the surface to be brought back to the caps to cool off and fall to the bottom again and keep going..
this cycle keeps the entire ocean from freezing also..

all you really need to know is that when the world gets hot enough it will turn into an ice age..

[edit]
a little bit of radiation?!?!
what if there's a solar flare? (they aren't rare you know..)
it'll spread a whole lot of radiation..
it'll just completely kill us cuz of the cancer..
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Exilibur 27-09-2004 18:16

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Well my dear sPlOrYgOn, you are obviously mistanken, since evaporated water does not contain any salt.

I'm sure as well that you must also know that even when the poles are hot enough to support the growth of rainforests, the equator will still be even hotter, and so is the balance preserved.

Solar flares are a risk, indeed, but not more than taking a trip in a car, and I'm sure people are willing to take the risk, when they know what's at stake!

>BKA< T Wrecks 27-09-2004 19:36

Re: Global Warming for the rainsforests!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exilibur
Well my dear sPlOrYgOn, you are obviously mistanken, since evaporated water does not contain any salt.

WTF? ???:( Where did he say that evaporated water contains salt?


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