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Pierre-Marie Baty
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Default Re: the European Constitution - 28-05-2005

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Originally Posted by Leagle
I'll start with making Capital and private property an invioble right... That does not make other systems (im)possible, it just means they cannot be forced on people.
Arguably right. Unless these systems HAVE to condemn capitalization to work, in which case it's not possible to apply them.

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"Same people or similar as 50 years ago". This is a cynical untruth, but I can see what you mean.
You're right. I will rephrase myself: obviously, not all the european institutions were created 50 years ago. Most of them are only 10, 20 years old (Maastricht, etc.) That optic in mind should render my phrase more comprehensible.

The rest of your argumentation is very good, although some parts are highly criticizeable (Thatcher years' excellent policy...)

Your first point is very good. It is the famous lack of democracy, in the etymological sense of the term.

About the second point, I'd say part of the problem is not the Euro itself, but the Central Bank policy (or absence of, given where your stand point is). We obviously don't share the same wing, so I won't push the debate in that direction. I'll just say that my belief is that economy must be kept subordinated to politics, by all means, coercitive ones if required. A state can't be run like a firm, for a state runs for its people and not against other states whatsoever, where a firm hardly runs for its employees but does against the competition.



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