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Default Re: Ernst Zundel deported from Canada to Germany - WTF? - 03-03-2005

the german media havnt covered that event that much, but you can find it without problems. maybe the event that there are more than 5 million ppl without work currently in germany seems to be more important ...

botmeister, you were asking if the german ppl are afraid of speaking freely, and I can assure you, they aren't. And insulting groups of ppl, lying, "volksverhetzung" etc are crimes in other states as well, and I guess we agree that this is some sort of criminal activity.
In my opinion it's ok that denial of the holocaust is a crime, since we cannot allow or encourage propaganda which is surely based on wrong facts. We had pretty bad experiences with propaganda here, so that's the way to go I think. and beside that, if germany wouldnt handle it that way, I guess that would as well be a big topic in other countries medias, just remember the CNN coverage on the elections in saxony where a right wing party got more than 5% and therefore got into the state parliament.

and about talking about the events from 33-45 ( and don't forget it began already years earlier ) isn't that impossible as pierre wrote. ok, you cannot just talk about it in the row in a supermarket but that's hardly the location to talk about it. dunno about the discussions about the french collaboration with the nazis, how much that is discussed in france, and if you have certain holidays to remember their victims. but talking about those events, the current way our society handles it, with friends, with my parents or grandparents and in school is possible and I guess it's everybodies duty to do this, to be able to discuss and convince all those extreme right wing ppl. ok, that sounds a bit too idealistic, but we have to be aware of those problems in the past to avoid similar developments in the future. ( and not just burrying problems in the past like some current president want to ) I have to admit that you sometimes get tired of another documentation on TV, another movie in the cinemas and alone the fact that you are regarded as far-far-far-far-far-right extremist when having a german flag in your private garden. But ignoring aint the way to go neither.

I hope botmeister isnt thinking of germany of a nonfree speech wannabedemocracy


  
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