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Default Re: 'big cigar' guys not smiling at all - 22-05-2004

100% right - they don't listen, they just let it play in the background. Where I work, a radio plays all the time. They always wonder when I turn it off, and when I try to explain them that it's always the same shit playing there, that the "music" itself is bullshit and that nobody's listening anyway, they just say, rather helplessly, that they somehow need it as a background noise. I guess it's the same as with those people who have the TV running all day long - not that they really watch anything, they just need it somehow to fill their background.

Oh, and concerning this:
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Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty
I have the feeling that you are/were at some point involved within this "scene" in order to know so well what you're talking about.
No. But as a student, you get to know a lot of these people. One storey below "ours" in the university is where the social workers are studying - and without wanting to express any disrespect towards social work itself, there are many who look like you imagine your average social work student. I've seen many wear the symbols and wave the flags of the former Soviet Republic, one of the worst "communist" regimes ever (although it actually was a dictatorship). When I was in Spain, I took part in a large student demonstration against a new university law, and there I saw some more of that strange melange. And when I was back in Germany, once when I went to buy some things in the city, I saw a demonstration pass under the train station where I was waiting - they had all the repertoire you want: Che Guevara flags, Che Guevara buttons, Che Guevara songs, Soviet flags, labour union flags - everything. I thought "guys, will you never learn?". When many students here were protesting against fees for long-time students (you'd only have to pay if you were more than 50% over the standard time of the respective course of studies) I refused to protest, because imho, this regulation makes sense. University is not a playground where ppl can have a good time for as many years as they want and make others pay the bill, after all - and I say that as a student! You see, this alone would make me a close-to-Nazi right-wing guy in their eyes... so no, no involvement in that scene, thank you very much.

But what you tell about ppl spraying anti-advertisement slogans on ads sounds really encouraging! Here, they only spray buildings and trains, but leave ad posters untouched for some reason... 9_9
Fortunately (and that's the point where I finally come back to topic), the music scene(s) here look quite healthy. In some way, the commercialisation of that casting show stuff has even helped, because all interesting scenes are almost ignored by major labels, mass media and music TV channels. That leaves the disease called commerce out of it and allows for concentrating on what really counts. Sometimes you can regret that precious flowers aren't looked at by more ppl just because they're standing at a hidden spot, but then again this keeps them from getting trampled by the masses... maybe it's better that way. And even some casting show members show signs of rebellion, for example by refusing to wear the clothes they are supposed to wear or sing the songs they are made to sing. There was one girl who won a casting show, and she always said she liked rock more than pop, and she always wore flat shoes. In the last show, she suddenly appeared on stage wearing high-heeled boots, something she'd never had done if she hadn't been made to. Well, the first thing she did was take off her boots and sing her winning song barefoot... and she was much applauded for that nice way to state a public "fuck you!" towards all those marketing specialists... not all is lost, indeed. 9_9
I just tend to be very caustic in my judgements, more than I actually am.



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