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nocturnal 22-11-2004 18:19

Defective video card
 
I bought a 9600pro, which in my opinion is a pretty good video card (just never tested with hl2 yet) but I think it's become defective. After maybe 2 months, my screen has turned black with funny colors even when i'm not doing graphic intensive stuff (typing, looking a web sites). I restarted the computer and now my computer doesn't start correctly. I should explain the way my computer sounds when it starts. Regularly, when I the power the computer on, (i think its the cpu fan), the fan starts real loud then after a second it's nearly silent. With the graphic card in the fan doesn't go silent and theres nothing on the screen, even when i change the monitor plug in to the onboard VGA port. When i pull the graphics card out, the computer runs normally. This has to be a problem with the graphics card right? Cuz i just bought my computer also and my dad kill me if i messed it up.

Has neone else had to send a video card back to Radeon due to it being defective? Do you have to pay to ship it or what?

Zacker 22-11-2004 19:10

Re: Defective video card
 
It is normal that fans are emitting more noise during startup. They often run best when warm - I got the same problem myself:)

It sounds like your computer is getting too hot.

TruB 22-11-2004 19:15

Re: Defective video card
 
i have no problem and i got that card.. fireblade edition..

Pierre-Marie Baty 22-11-2004 19:40

Re: Defective video card
 
Have you ensured your video card's fan was spinning correctly ? cos if not, chances are that you just fried your video chip.

about warranties, usually it's you who must pay the shipping to the manufacturer, and then the manufacturer pays the shipping of the new video card back to you. I had to do that lately for a fried hard disk. You may ask them for a refund, maybe that would work (although in my case it didn't).

@$3.1415rin 22-11-2004 20:12

Re: Defective video card
 
wooooha, pierre, you telling me my gpu is fried ? got no fan there ... and a radeon 9700 .. my radeon will fry, pmb told me ... whaaaa, god help me, please !

serious : for certain types of gpu there are tools to read out their temperature. dunno if that's available for your type of gpu.

Pierre-Marie Baty 23-11-2004 04:18

Re: Defective video card
 
grmbl :) hey dude I take the contest that I am the #1 experienced here in fan removal... ALL sort of fans... so I believe I know what I'm talking about :)
You won't maybe destroy the chip, but if it has no overheating protection like CPUs usually have, that will for sure damage the logic :P I don't know if ATI has some or not, but anyway a video card running at 70 °C is noooo good 9_9
heh heh I'll have warned you ;)

sfx1999 23-11-2004 05:43

Re: Defective video card
 
Unfortunately, I am stuck with that damn Fahrenheit scale, but I know 70 degrees Celsius is hot!

I just looked at a converter, and it is equal to 158 degrees Celsius. Ouch!

TruB 23-11-2004 08:53

Re: Defective video card
 
70 C is hot..

0 c when the ice melts..
40 -60 c how hot the water should be when you do you londrey (spell check)

100 c when the water boils..

25-30 c is perfekt for laying in the sun and not get too hot..

did that help?

Pierre-Marie Baty 23-11-2004 11:24

Re: Defective video card
 
70°C is usually the temperature at which a CPU will either take damage or deactivate itself for protection if it has such a feature. You reach that temperature in about 2 minutes if you take your fan off completely. At this rate most highly integrated logic chips will just continue heating up and fry.

von Ryan 23-11-2004 12:31

Re: Defective video card
 
Can somebody tell me the name of this program to measure the temperature of my gpu? (nVidia GeForce 5200 FX 128MB)

biohazerd87 23-11-2004 18:43

Re: Defective video card
 
i don't have time to read the post cause i am at school so if the problem is resloved already or w/e forgive me now, i am jsut going to give you some tips

1. If the screen is messing up try a differenet moniter
2. Update the video drivers to the latest beta ATI ones
3. Make sure the card is in the AGP/PCI is inserted all the way
4. Make sure the refresh rate isn't higher than the moniter can handle
5. Make sure there are now power cords around the video card and make sure there are no magents of the sort close to the moniter and computer (note most computer speakers/systems are ok)

@$3.1415rin 23-11-2004 18:44

Re: Defective video card
 
and 6. Be sure to have installed the right mainboard driver for correct AGP/PCI(e) handling

biohazerd87 23-11-2004 18:53

Re: Defective video card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by @$3.1415rin
and 6. Be sure to have installed the right mainboard driver for correct AGP/PCI(e) handling

lol thanks and another is

7. Make sure the card isn't broken :P

von Ryan 23-11-2004 20:36

Re: Defective video card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biohazerd87
lol thanks and another is

7. Make sure the card isn't broken :P

8. Make sure there are no crayon pencils inserted in your gpu's fan

That actually happened to me, but it was in the cpu fan... I left the computer on a table for,like, 2 minutes, cuz I was fixing or installing something in it and I got thristy. Then, when I came back, there was a crayon pencil in the cpu fan :P! And I don't even have brothers or sisters to try to sabotage me... Guess it was the wind who brought it... ;):D:|

nocturnal 24-11-2004 14:14

Re: Defective video card
 
Its not the gpu fan i'm talking about, its my cpu fan. When the vid card is connected my cpu fan doesn't stop being loud (usually goes silent after 2-3 seconds into boot up). with the card out the fan is normal, just wanted to clarify

von Ryan 24-11-2004 14:55

Re: Defective video card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nocturnal
Its not the gpu fan i'm talking about, its my cpu fan. When the vid card is connected my cpu fan doesn't stop being loud (usually goes silent after 2-3 seconds into boot up). with the card out the fan is normal, just wanted to clarify

Just a shot in the dark here, but I think it's overheating...:D

Is your GPU fan working?

stefanhendriks 24-11-2004 16:22

Re: Defective video card
 
in the good old times with PCI cards you could try a different slot and see if the slot was broken or not. Now you have to 'guess' it is your video card...assuming it is the video card.: Tried resetting BIOS settings? If you have a are video card, also AGP. Does it also mess up the CPU cooling?

von Ryan 24-11-2004 16:35

Re: Defective video card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanhendriks
If you have a are video card, also AGP. Does it also mess up the CPU cooling?

Excuse me...

WTF?

Did you mean another AGP video card?

stefanhendriks 24-11-2004 18:55

Re: Defective video card
 
lol, that is odd.

what i meant. If he has another AGP card, he could try to use that one yes. A 'spare' one, thats what i wanted to say ... :)

von Ryan 24-11-2004 19:24

Re: Defective video card
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanhendriks
lol, that is odd.

what i meant. If he has another AGP card, he could try to use that one yes. A 'spare' one, thats what i wanted to say ... :)

Well, I think it is difficult thet someone has a spare video card (unless he/she has another computer (like me!!)), but maybe he kept his old one.

Pierre-Marie Baty 24-11-2004 22:03

Re: Defective video card
 
The Geforce2 I have on the other PC is starting to die, same problems. Erratic pixels randomly appearing on the textures, screen flickering on mode change, etc...

And guess what ? It's a card where I had replaced the GPU fan with a dissipator from an old AMD K6, about 2 years ago :P

So Aspirin, you'd better watch out for yours :)

@$3.1415rin 24-11-2004 22:16

Re: Defective video card
 
well, there is a cooler, but no fan :) so everything is fine, just joking :P as long as I have enough water there, everything is 'cool'

T(+)rget 01-12-2004 00:16

Re: Defective video card
 
I had this trouble with my ATi 9800 Pro Ultimate card:

My problem was faulty memory which I brought at the same time, to check out your memory use this niffty tool to rule out this problem http://www.memtest86.com/

@$3.1415rin 01-12-2004 00:32

Re: Defective video card
 
hehe, for testing memory, linux is also nice ... just boot it up, and if everything's fine, it's very unprobable that you have messy RAM. windows might not notice this explicitly for years, just producing crashs every few days


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