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HangFire 31-05-2005 21:54

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
Maybe not in Canada, the entertainment industry cartels have very little power here. The only success they've ever had is adding a .25 cent corporate tax onto blank CD-Rs, +R, and +RW.

They've continually been trying to pull more stunts like that, but they are continually being denied.

Hell, its even "legal" to download copyrighted material, as long as you're not re-selling it. Well, its not exactly legal, its just that nobody has ever been prosecuted for such a thing.


Every time I read another article about some ludicrous and immoral new law in the States (Induce, Patriot, DMCA), I feel quite proud to live where I do.

Exilibur 31-05-2005 22:27

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
The battle isn't lost... it will first begin the day p2p becomes illegal.

digital copying is a much bigger case than it might already seem. To copy something almost effortless, almost expenseless, and enterely perfect is something that has never been possible before.

This means that the free market are becoming obsolete, and we'll soon end up with a market that is inconsistent with itself and the principles behind it.

let me quote Marx:
"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or — this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms — with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. From forms of development of the productive forces these relations turn into their fetters. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure."

Well... it's a theory at least... but the point is:

REVOLUTION! ;)

Pierre-Marie Baty 01-06-2005 00:30

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
lmao, you're optimist... comrade :D

botmeister 02-06-2005 09:16

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
If AMD does not add DRM capability, then the media that requires it simply won't run, so it won't matter to you if you buy AMD or not.

It however will matter to the people who actually want to run DRM enabled media, so these people will only buy DRM capable motherboards.

It also of course matters a great deal to the people who want to make thier media DRM encoded, since they won't bother with the format if there's not enough PC's to run it on. It's the classic chicken before egg problem.

IMO if DRM makes it, there will be a crack available within a couple of weeks. One thing that's noteworthy, is Intel seems to want to keep the details of the implementation a secret, which likely means it can be easily cracked and they know it.

Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips

"Conversely, Intel is heavily promoting what it calls "active management technology" (AMT) in the new chips as a major plus for system administrators and enterprise IT. Understood to be a sub-operating system residing in the chip's firmware, AMT will allow administrators to both monitor or control individual machines independent of an operating system.

Additionally, AMT also features what Intel calls "IDE redirection" which will allow administrators to remotely enable, disable or format or configure individual drives and reload operating systems and software from remote locations, again independent of operating systems. Both AMT and IDE control are enabled by a new network interface controller."

The more worrysome aspect of the "Trusted Computing" cartel, is that in theory only "trusted" computers will be able to speak to other computers on the net. ISP's could start preventing computers without DRM from connecting through their networks.

If you don't run an Approved(TM) OS, then you may be SOL unless there's a work around.

Lethal 02-06-2005 14:33

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
Take a look around, the consumer is more than the home user. Big businesses and Universities and Colleges use pc's too. And I haven't seen a single pc with a AMD badge on it. So why do people persist that AMD is the popular chip, when it clearly isn't. All its good for atm is games and even then this new dual core scheme brings a new aspect to programing(main stream dual processing).
Like many other technologies this will blitz by. Did you know dell wanted to control all of their pc's they built to prevent people upgrading unless they upgrade with dell, or the part is used else where. (I have seen the tech reports for the intel machines with pcie before it was launched, I don't think it went ahead though since I haven't seen any reports that suggest the parts have been 'stamped'). Thank goodness for that.
I don't have a problem when someone is good at creating patches to work around anti-piracy, but when others download it and try to sell to people as the real thing is wrong. It just looks like the main companies don't trust end-users.

Zacker 02-06-2005 22:13

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
We do not persist that AMD is the most popular, which it is now. We do however agree on that AMD is the superior CPU choice.

Thirdeye 06-06-2005 19:16

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty
I place a bet: in less than 5 years, we'll need to mod our motherboards with modchips like gamers do with their playstations.

I've been seeing that coming for a long time.



wow very interesting any other predictions ??? PMB ???

Lethal 08-06-2005 00:12

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
Not to worry all the thing is this:
The DRM technology referred to in a recent report was not a secret or an embedded DRM from Intel. Intel does support various content protection technologies including DTCP-IP technology, which is publicly offered by a number of companies in the industry to enable protected transport of compressed content within a home network.
Just don't ask me to explain any of it, I am no security expert :)

Pierre-Marie Baty 08-06-2005 03:32

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
I didn't know that - about the DTCP-IP. You're obviously well informed, may I ask you where do you take this from ?

Granted, Google gives me results, but what I'm wondering is why in hell this info didn't pass on popular news ?

@Thirdeye: ph34r my predictions, I've seldom been proven wrong ;)

botmeister 08-06-2005 06:56

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/05/1833241

'While Intel continues to work with the industry to support other content protection technologies, we have not added any unannounced DRM technologies in either the Pentium D processor or the Intel 945 Express Chipset family.'


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