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About the so-called muslim riots in france : yeah, it's been the 10th night of violence. But SHIT! this has nothing to do with muslims. Guess what, I usually read about that stuff both in the foreign news and in the local news. Almost no paper in france but the right-wing extremists (fascists like Le Pen) refers to them as muslims. But when I fire up Google News USA, WHOA!!! they're all labelled as "muslims", "terrorists", "young fundamentalists"... oh boy, I knew the atlantist media had some sort of hidden agenda towards the white house policies, but I wasn't expecting it would be twisting the facts THAT much to fit their purpose ! 8o Beware, beware of your mass media, americans ! These riots have nothing to do with muslims, Al Quaeda or religion, I tell you. The facts are, that France has had an open immigration policy for decades, not only to muslims but for people from all around the globe, which resulted in ghettoes of minoritary communities filling up the cheap suburbs living in their own world, not mixing with the french, with all the consequences you can get : unability to graduate, unability to find a job, unability to get a loan, unability to pay the taxes, exclusion, discrimination - but hey, from an employer's point of view, would you choose a guy who half speaks french or a "native", given similar abilities and diplomas ? I tell you, this has NOTHING to do with the muslims, it's the fault of a lack of care for our migrants, from ALL countries and religions, we let them sectarize and form closed communities where we should have given them from the start the opportunity to learn the tongue and the customs of France and integrate at school and on the employment market. This has NOTHING to do with muslims, al Queda or terrorists yet the atlantist media makes a big deal of it ?? Ah, I guess that's what the americans WANT to hear. Much more comfortable... I puke on the people who try to instrumentalize people's fears for such obnoxious agendas. LEARN TO THINK BY YOURSELF, ELSE OTHERS WILL DO IT FOR YOU.

PMB I jumped in here just to ask you what was really going on because I know the media where I live always spins the truth to paint whatever picture will best serve the establishments agenda.

In any case, you already answered my question. Thanks for your opinions PMB, I'll pass em on.

looks like the same trouble we got over here. Immigrants who do not 'intergrate' properly come back later complaining. Or, their children cause trouble. But i feel more sorry for the kids then the parents...

It's a lost generation. We ignored them for decades, and here's the result. The parents are helpless. These youth have no law and no master. You can beat them up, talk to them, enjail them, pay them, respect them, insult them, get them a well-paid job, take them out of their suburbs, their anger and their hate will persist. I personally met some of these young, and there's nothing to do, really. Many of them would sell their own mother. Not much of them actually committed a crime, but almost all of them steal cars regularly to do rushs on the highways, plunder the supermarkets, abuse girls, set thrash cans ablaze here or there, as they go, like that, for free. You cannot talk to them, they don't understand the logic, common sense means nothing to them, for YOU are their enemy, no matter what you do or what you say. This generation is completely fucked up, I'm terrified by the thought of what sort of children will get out of it. Even the girls are a nightmare. Dressing like whores, fighting with fists and blades, and actually WANTING to be abused. There's nothing to do for them, it's much too late.

Heyyo,

Holy smokes! kindof sounds like some of the natives here in Canada.. it's crazy, east indians n' such have intergrated into our society seamlessly. You see them in all jobs n' places. Infact, the computer tech regional supervisor for western Canada (BC and Alberta) is even east indian. But the natvies? the one's that have been here all along? they've been living off welfare, so they don't get jobs, they just get lazy (or most), and the kids now just wander the streets, trying to be like "gangstas" all with their guns n' their part of towns here looks like slums, and causing minor crimes like PMB says the immigrants do over there... it's pretty ghey.

Video of French police at work, who appear to be shooting rubber bullets at people for no reason. No wonder their rioting.

http://www.afrik.com/article8965.html

PMB you'll be better able to translate this than I can.

hmm well PMB keep safe i remember the LA riots over here.. quite similar but started for different reasons.

read in the news papers that those people shot the police with 'shotgun shells'. So, i wonder, how the heck do those people "who supposedly have no money, etc, etc" get SHOTGUNS and SHELLS to FIRE at the police!? Woah.

By the way; also heard that fire got started in Brussel as well!

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Originally Posted by stefanhendriks

Some of these people murdered an old man aswell...

As for the riots in Belgium+Germany (none here yet? :)), I think that are just bored people, or something :|

governments need to take extreem acions to stop them.

martial law. and screw the rubber bullits.