Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

the problem is, in a world where you cannot see each other and hide yourself from activities, it is hard to get hard evidence about 'criminal' activities on the net. What is 'criminal' anyway?

Like the ongoing discussions about P2P... its insane. P2P is just a protocol. Its as legal as you can get. The problem is its usage. What i don't understand, is that kind of usenet sharing. Even magazines simply guide you how to get 'illegal' software from usenet....

Another problem is, the internet is like our nature, it has no borders ;) Although you can 'filter' the internet , there is always a way to get passed that filter. (ie use a satelite connection ;))...

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

That is very true, but what they dont realise is by doing this they also turn legit customers into "criminals" as well because the technology effects even legit customers in some way (it's usually very inconvienient, such as product activation from MS) which causes them to go out and try to find work arounds for it (which is also "Illegal" according to the DMCA if i'm not mistaken)

That's just what i notice anyway, i could be wrong of course.

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

Yet another reason to buy AMD.

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

Yeah but knowing AMD, they have to have something that will match or be better than Intel. So I guess AMD will follow suit and build so 'better' protection system. Since when was a business company ever on your(consumer) side? They are there to make money and if pretending they are doing it for the people, usually its just because they will make alot of money from it, I guess Intel have been/being paid to incorporate the technogoly in to the new chips, (ps nothing wrong with intel chips, they are just meant for other things than gaming, like compiling the the games for instance)

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

I don't know, remember AMD and Intel are rivals, if AMD finds out people won't buy Intel's because of this technology, they'll not even add it because people will then buy AMD instead. It's just good marketing and buisness strategy. And if AMD was "In It For The Money" don't you think they'd charge more that intel for their CPU's? From what i recall AMD is cheaper than Intel, but i'm not saying that people can't be bought off for the right price but your statement is a bit of a Hyperbole. Of course buisnesses listen to consumers, that's how you make a better product. AMD is pretty much up to par with Intel atm imho, so if they found out people were strongly against DRM, AMD could reject any DRM contracts offered and realease CPU's without DRM and they'd make a killing.

But again it's still too early to tell if AMD is gonna follow Intel and add DRM, so it could happen.

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

IMO, there are WAY too many lobbies interested in DRM for that crap not to be forced by the law soon.

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

huh, what do you mean? They are interested in getting laws forcing its usage? Nah, i don't see that happening. its a free market.

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Good point, there are a few but most don't even really know anything about the interworkings of piracy so the lobbies use terms that make it sound more serious. Take the Induce Act bill that Sen. Hatch tried to run through congress, he didn't say it was strictly to prevent copying of software and MP3's, he said it was to thwart child pornography and the like. Using that tactic congress thinks it's more serious because who doesn't know that child pornography is illegal and sick, so of course their gonna vote in favor of the bill to help stop that.

In any case, i could see DRM trying to be enforced by law, in fact that's pretty much what the Induce Act contained was so the RIAA and MPAA and the like can put restictions on hardware to prevent piracy.

I envy you Euro folks, you don't have to worry as much about U.S. restrictions and such. Some of the laws that we have are just plain lame, and how the RIAA has so much damn power is rediculous imho. I mean atm you could be more screwed being caught for piracy than molesting a teenager in the U.S., that in my mind is messed up. But that's a whole nother story altogether.

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Don't envy us that much. Anything weird the US invents ends up in EU sooner or later. It's been a long time since the budget of international firms exceeds the budget of any reasonably sized state.

Europe is currently struggling against the copy protection majors, but they cease step after step. "Free market", yes Stefan. The battle is already lost, it's just a matter of time IMO. :(

Re: Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips
 

I agree!