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View Poll Results: should a tool be developed to repair buggy ladders in cz
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Default tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

well it seems there is a tool for everything except how to repair buggy ladders in cz.would it be possible to repair them if such a tool was made.or is it just plain not possible.i mean there is bsp edit bspviewer and a lot of other nice tools that 1 can use.how about a tool for this.thanks
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

You can always use the Hammer Editor to fix them but the maps will become custom then and the users that wants to join will need to download them.
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

aah yes hammer very complicated for me.what i mean is a tool that you can use to move the link line[blue] and the pink axis what i find in most maps is that the links does not work properly.most times the pink axis is correctly placed but the blue linkage line is absent or in the wrong placewhich makes it hard for bots to use the ladder or they dont use it at all.
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

If the bot is waypointed good it will use even very bad placed leaders fine(personal expirience). Dunno for the bots that use NavMeshes.
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

yes i do navs for http://www.csnavcentral.com/ and you find ,from time to time, ladder that are not correctly done.and they use nav meshes[i dont know anything about waypoints for 1.6 tho{potbot}]tho i have read that the cz bot is 1 of the best bots to play with.
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 26-08-2006

podbot mm is one of the best bots ever, but there are other great bots here in Bots-united.
I promote podbot mm because I use it the most
Also some ladders are just plain to hard to have bots navigate through.
It may sound rediculous, but it's true.


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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 10-09-2006

I guess it's hard to make a tool to fix ladders for csbots as bug cause may vary depending on ladder brushes, position, etc. But the main issue is that sometimes csbots mistake the front side of the ladder.
This could be easily fixed with a handler to set the right side of the ladder in nav mesh editing (just like cs:s csbots), but csbot code is proprietary and TRS ignores updating requests as they don't plan to update cz anymore.
  
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Default Re: tool to repair ladders in Condtion Zero - 13-09-2006

Heyyo,

Now, for ladders, the CZBot never did them right. The upgraded bot they made for CSS uses ladders with ease since ladders get its own proper navmesh and bots use the ladders without problems now... now if only they made their jumping actually accurate...


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