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Sandbot A bot for Gunman Chronicles and They Hunger - by tschumann

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Default Re: progress - 26-05-2020

Any progress sir?

While we're waiting for your updates, I will ask something to you.

Does the BOT have an unique way of fight which human players didn't ?

Look at this screenshot for example. When playing Opposing Force CTF mode, after round was cleared, you can save the game result and store it on ofctfstats.log inside the gearbox folder. Pay attention to the stats I've print bold.



In that custom map, there is no Rocket Launcher, Tau Cannon, Gluon Gun, or any explosive weapons. The only weapon that could deal most damage is Sniper Rifle. However, no matter how accurate I used it, I never dealt damage higher than it when I shoot it at their head (even with Accelerator Power Up which increase damage). And in some cases, even it wouldn't have killed them instantly. Look at this :



See? My highest damage was only 100. So it means I never reach damage higher than it. Imagine when BOT can deals damage more than 100 to you (even just with Desert Eagle) and you will die instantly. It's pretty annoying and I hope your Sandbot never do such a thing.

In addition, when I was playing Wizardwars with HPB_BOT, their "magic missile" seems can be "reflected" when passing above a trampoline (below the Thornplant). However, when I did the same thing, my projectile never being reflected. That's why I ask to you once again : Does BOT have an unique power which normal human don't ?

  
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Default Re: progress - 27-05-2020

Is that Wizard Wars 1.2.7?





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Default Re: progress - 28-05-2020

Yes, it's a Wizardwars 1.2.7

It's not the latest version though, because there is a version newer than it (1.3.0), however :

1. In 1.3.0, you have to edit listenserver.cfg inside the Wizardwars folder to make Thornplant usable in deathmatch mode (not just CTF mode). In 1.2.7, you don't need to do such a thing.

2. In 1.3.0, BOT are good at spamming satchel, but almost never used their staff for melee combat. This is sometimes give them disadvantage because some classes like Geomancer or Frostmage are great when attacking with their staff.

3. In 1.3.0, BOT never play as Dragoner and Sylvanist. Therefore, the only way to fight them is against human player.

Now back to the topic. If you know anything about BOT's unique power, please tell me. I'm just afraid if attack type dealt by the BOT is something like "Direct HP Removal" instead of "Physical Damage". And don't forget about magic missile above
  
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Default Re: progress - 28-05-2020

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Yes, it's a Wizardwars 1.2.7

It's not the latest version though, because there is a version newer than it (1.3.0), however :

1. In 1.3.0, you have to edit listenserver.cfg inside the Wizardwars folder to make Thornplant usable in deathmatch mode (not just CTF mode). In 1.2.7, you don't need to do such a thing.

2. In 1.3.0, BOT are good at spamming satchel, but almost never used their staff for melee combat. This is sometimes give them disadvantage because some classes like Geomancer or Frostmage are great when attacking with their staff.

3. In 1.3.0, BOT never play as Dragoner and Sylvanist. Therefore, the only way to fight them is against human player.

Now back to the topic. If you know anything about BOT's unique power, please tell me. I'm just afraid if attack type dealt by the BOT is something like "Direct HP Removal" instead of "Physical Damage". And don't forget about magic missile above
I've got the src code for WW 1.2.9





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Default Re: progress - 30-05-2020

Sandbot doesn't do anything special (that I know of or have seen - it is mostly HPB Bot under the hood) - I assume that the bot used one of the powerups to increase its damage?

Not sure about the deflected rocket either - sometimes I see satchels get bounced in bounce in Half Life deathmatch but again, everything should just get passed through to the game/mod .dll

The only special thing that Sandbot does is to decrease the friction of bots on one of the Opposing Force CTF flags with ice, otherwise the bots would not be able to play properly.

Progress - getting there - still need to test recent changes.
  
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Now it's November and still no update yet? I'm afraid if this project has already been canceled 😰
  
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No, I'm still slowly working on it - haven't had much free time lately.
  
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Is that Wizard Wars 1.2.7?
this mod looks cool from the screen capture..

i also like Persephone question :
Does the BOT have an unique way of fight which human players didn't ?


but i see not the idea i have in mind.. you only make "grunts" bots...

while playing opposing force is meaning playing with bots or as some monsters.. [ like alien slaves or others pitdrones...alien grunts..controllers.. ]
may be the bot system : extended to single player maps.. like with svencoop or decay or "singleplayer" could help adding more monsters according to the number of players on the server ..
if there is 2 or 4 then not bots are added , but if players are more than 10 then monsters or grunts are added... maps having monsters could also have "easy" "autocreated path by using mostly the spots where they are spawned by the map creator ..

but i came to write somthing else....
i like the ideas of bots in theyhunger .. but it is not a multiplayer.. so how that works..??
i also told you a lot of time to extend your sandpit mod to the model creation.. i had and add few ideas i had ..
the first is with my favorite mod these days.. echoes.. that is incredible for some parts.. especially the cars and trucks.. plus the use of garg ...like in pov, invasion or shl...
the end is not very cute.. when the tank goes back "for repairs" ...
instead of having it coming back as 100% new.. i imagined a new model for it ..or a new grunt if i can write so .. the robot-torchman ... it is a robot-grunt but with one arms capable of reparairing others robots or turrets using its torch or others tau canons invented by scientists..
you should make sandpit able of creating it..

i also imagined a new monster for they hunger [chapter3] that i plan to use in my giant mod.. the monster [ that sovietscoop should like and imagined.. ] is based on the tentacle claws


any ideas ???
is it zulu or vodoo ?
both : that is a giant hand skeleton coming out of the ground ,,trying to catch player and kill him...
something like that : http://www.ikonet.com/fr/ledictionna...lette/main.php

for this one sandpit is not enought for modeling it all ...but can be use to set animations "in the real map ;'] "
  
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