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Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes!
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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 20-04-2004

do not send something to the emai address sending the virus, those sender addresse are VERY orften forged, to this becomes collateral spam.
and in the end is in my postbox (me=postmaster)


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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 20-04-2004

Its weird that hotmail adresses gets a score, because its from hotmail. Its just because a lot of people use it, it does nto mean it is spam (although spam mails will use a 'fake' adress 'from' hotmail).

Anyway, i can't check my mail from here yet, so i will notify you later if it worked for me. Anything that is spam that could be deleted in my opinion. The problem is when the mails are not spam and get deleted.

There must be a whitelist no? Well, if so, i just send you mail adresses that are confirmed and okay.


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Its weird that hotmail adresses gets a score, because its from hotmail. Its just because a lot of people use it, it does nto mean it is spam (although spam mails will use a 'fake' adress 'from' hotmail).

Anyway, i can't check my mail from here yet, so i will notify you later if it worked for me. Anything that is spam that could be deleted in my opinion. The problem is when the mails are not spam and get deleted.

There must be a whitelist no? Well, if so, i just send you mail adresses that are confirmed and okay.
Oh well, i have set spam to go straight to /dev/null now. if some mails dont seem to get through, its probably the attachments.


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I have recieved some hotmail mails today, great work. No virusses today, when i have some i will notify you Nova. Thanks


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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 20-04-2004

You wont get virus mails. a mail taht contains a virus is immediatly sent to /dev/null


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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 20-04-2004

Well, thats my point. I DID recieve virus mails even with the virus protection we had. Perhaps you changed something, and i did not pay attention to it. Anyway, i rely on the virus scanner at our server.


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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 21-04-2004

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Well, thats my point. I DID recieve virus mails even with the virus protection we had. Perhaps you changed something, and i did not pay attention to it. Anyway, i rely on the virus scanner at our server.
hmmm. if you DO get a virus, can you please post the WHOLE email including headers in the forum and upload the virus to /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine ?

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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 21-04-2004

I will try to send you as much information when it happens again. I have an own virus scanner which eliminates the virus before it hits my mailbox. Anyway, i bet Norton also gives information about the virus itself?


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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 21-04-2004

Why not make a full killer mail program that learns what spam e-mail is and kill it and learn from non-spam e-mails. (using AI techniques of course, got you guys interested...)I might try myself I've already made a program that simply deletes emails more than 15KB from my e-mail because my ISP email gets so much spam I guess its a start :p
  
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Default Re: Mail server is to strict with filtering? And virus mails get through sometimes! - 21-04-2004

well, that is what a bayes filter is about. it's allready used by spam scanners and netscape mail. whilst server side scanners do more, they have big lists and stuff.


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