US election

[>BKA< T Wrecks]

Originally Posted by KWo

Every country has a president which deserves for.

Yeah, but few countries are so powerful that whatever their president does affects people all over the world who didn't vote for him and thus don't deserve him.

Originally Posted by KWo

BTW - Don't forget, guys, about $7 of BU rules...

1. I suppose you meant §7, not $ 7... or where can I get those dollars? Eh, forget it, atm the exchange rate $/€ is too bad anyway.
2. This rule #7 (hey! another symbol!) was probably introduced with the unpleasant discussions from Nukebox in mind... As Pierre once mentioned in a not-so-glamorous and monumental, but nonetheless very true post, we already found out that BU is ok for political discussions due to the rather friendly and (intellectually) mature community. Besides, when I discuss such stuff with anyone, I wanna discuss it with people I like and whom I have regular contact with, and not with an anonymous hobby debating club in some obscure wannabe-pundit hideout somewhere on the wide, wide web.
Or do you want me to ban myself?

[KWo]

I don't You get banned by Your-self or by someone else. Few forums needs You, but You are a moderator - You need give the good example for "normal" memebers then. I think this paragraph 7 (yeah, I meant about paragraph - not about dollar) should be better clarified (or maybe a bit rewritten).

[-=RAV=-AdrianShephard]

Originally Posted by HangFire

The government should allow gay marriages, but not force religious organizations to marry them. If they can't find a priest to marry them, then I guess they won't get married in that way.

Bush is making it so that they have civil unions witch give them all the rights as normal maried people.

kerry also was opposed to gay marrage.

if it becomes illigal they will still have civil unions, but the church should not be disgraced with having to marry 2 gay people..

and i ment to say if church wouldve been able to dictate the law they wouldve banned it. not that they should dictate the law.

[sPlOrYgOn]

I suppose you're forgetting what happened in the southern states in the 1900's...
when schools were being forced to take blacks in...
they were probably thinking the same..
why should this school be disgraced by having to teach black people..
I agree with everything T Wrecks has posted..

[HangFire]

Thats different with schools. Thats a government institution, not a religious organization. You can't force a religious group to change their beliefs, even if they are biased against a particular group.

[sPlOrYgOn]

well they can start the own churches to allow their marriages..

why are we even talking about how they going to get married..
they've already been banned from being married..
now it's up to the supreme court to fix this stupid law..

[-=RAV=-AdrianShephard]

Then why dont they!
the christian or catholic churches.. i am catholic do not condone gay mariage let alone want to perform it.

its immoral

and i dont understand the unti bushism (new word) hes better than that tree hugging kerry.

neg its only banned in 4 states. by the peoples votes. but with a conservative supreme court and the only liberal there dying i am happy to see that it will be banned for good.

[sPlOrYgOn]

if they government bans gay marriages they can't marry..
just don't ban it and let them make their own religion to allow themselves to marry..

I feel like moving out of this country..
America being free is just a bunch of bull shit since most people here in the country obviously don't want everyone to be equal...

[-=RAV=-AdrianShephard]

mariage is between a MAN and a WOMAN

[sPlOrYgOn]

Why should that matter?
we live in America..
this country was born on the ideal that everyone is equal..
look at T Wreck's post.. he has a quote from the Declaration of Independance..
by those state's passing that law..
it's interfering with the "pursuit of happiness"
you don't want homosexuals to feel happy..
you want them to feel bad about who they are..
you would feel much happier if you lived in a country like how Iraq was..
mass killings of people who didn't conform to how you thought the "right" way is..

this is probably one of the reasons Alan Turing commited suicide..
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KWo is right.. I stop here..
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