Heyyo,
Cyberdemon, I like the sound of that.
btw, for DNF, they're still working onnit. They've just changed their physics system. It's the "Meqon Physics System." I've tried their physics demo, n' I say it's better than the havoc physics. Cause it takes not nearly as much cpu power as the havoc engine, n' seems to be able to mold the ragdoll and player animations very nicely. Like, if yu grab a guy, n' push him, he stubles a little, n' then keeps walking normally... very cool.
Check the demo of Meqon Physics here:
http://www.megagames.com/news/redir....emos-1.3.1.zip
back to booze now: Crown Royal Wiskey, or Captain Morgans original spiced rum?