US election

[Thirdeye]

i for one have never voted... and low and behold i didnt vote this past election date either...

" u want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left " -WAKING LIFE

i would just honestly worry about MORE PRESSING ISSUES

[botmeister]

Originally Posted by >BKA< T Wrecks

What I meant by "undisputed" is that no matter how chaotic the election may have been, there is no doubt that Bush got more votes this time, and that even a correction of all "mistakes" or "accidents" would not change the outcome. I should have said that the outcome is undisputed, not the election itself.

Perhaps you are right, Bush got more votes, but then again perhaps you are wrong - there's just no way to say for certain (or reasonably certain) is there?

Even if the outcome is not in dispute, the election results should be thown out until a reasonably tamper proof voting system in put in place - it's NOT hard to do, and there are many existing and proven examples to choose from.

The real tragedy is that so many people seemed to be perfectly content at having to participate in a seriously flawed election process.

[botmeister]

Originally Posted by Thirdeye

i for one have never voted... and low and behold i didnt vote this past election date either...

" u want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left " -WAKING LIFE

i would just honestly worry about MORE PRESSING ISSUES

I see your point, and I think not voting is a perfectly valid strategy considering what the choices were. If you are not content with any of the candidates, then you should not endorse any of them with your vote. Ballots should have a box marked [ ] None of the Above.

If enough Americans thought that no one was acceptable and did not vote, then Bush would not of been able to stand up on his pedistal and tell the world that he has a mandate backed up by the people. He'd look more like a fool instead of a real madman endorsed by millions.

[Pierre-Marie Baty]

I did a bit of research.
The American voting system is utterly weird o_O

In case 50.1% of the people in EVERY state would go for Bush and 49.9% of the people for Kerry, wouldn't Bush be elected with 100.0% of votes ?

Insane.

[@$3.1415rin]

yes, that's right. but it has also some advantages, since each wannabe president has to take care of minorities that might ruin their win in some states. so it's not just that black and white

[sfx1999]

Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty

I did a bit of research.
The American voting system is utterly weird o_O

In case 50.1% of the people in EVERY state would go for Bush and 49.9% of the people for Kerry, wouldn't Bush be elected with 100.0% of votes ?

Insane.

It's that damn electorial college. The are obligated to vote for whoever wins the popular vote of their state.

Your state gets so many electorial vote according to its population. This is determined by the census. I think we had one in 2000 last.

The only people we elect directly are probably Senators, Governers, and members of the House of Representatives.

[Pierre-Marie Baty]

Originally Posted by @$3.1415rin

yes, that's right. but it has also some advantages, since each wannabe president has to take care of minorities that might ruin their win in some states.

...and that is called demagogism, my friend
an advantage ?

[@$3.1415rin]

a voting system where the absolute number of votes is counted would be my favourite as well. but protection of minorities is also a part of almost all democracies, and this would be a possibility.

[Thirdeye]

( ranting and raves...rants and raves...dies from vomiting )

[ x ] none of the above

[SoUlFaThEr]

i never have voted either.....and never will.
i will never "trust" any fuckin government no matter where i am. all of them are corrupted.

but turthfully if i had been living in the states at the time of this election....i would have voted for the first time just to get the biggest fuckin liar on this planet out of that ORAL office that Bill Clinton did such a nice job in.