ah yes rat is renamed mybigrat.mdl in this version as otherwise tfc makes the rat a flag, for some reason the rat mdl in tfc is a flag ??? weird I know. Just copy bigrat.mdl from valve folder to models folder for your mod or valve models folder should work. And otis I guess you need op4 installed on server or upload an otis model I guess. I'll re-read this later on and reply on rest then, wife just said dinner was ready so ima eat