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TomTom · **Re: Waypointing -** 19-02-2007

I think I know where Stormer is getting confused. In Fritzbot ET the group ID is strictly a way to control action from the aiscript. This is because it is best to use the goal tracker as little as possible in most ET maps. (It can really confuse you in the testing stage when the goal tracker fights with the aiscript.) However in Fritzbot (RTCW) the action_group is tied to the goal tracker since the aiscript is more a backup to the goal tracker. The ET Wiki isn't quite at the point that we cover everything that is common between the 2 versions so we still recommend ET waypointers read the RTCW waypointing tutorial and then "unlearn" about a half dozen things that do not apply to Fritzbot ET. I have started a wiki topic comparing the different versions but it still isn't vetted yet by Mal or Crapshoot.

Definitely read the link Bindlestiff mentions. Crapshoot wrote it to help me when I confused something in one of my maps. Since then I have abandonned the goal tracker after goal 0 for ET maps.

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Most likely the bots sight is too low, but also make certain that the bots are not simply at the camp because of a roam or altroam that over laps. A bot at a roam that does not fight may be zombied. That happens because they have chosen an active action that they can not get to because of an obstruction (wall, team door etc.) or because they are badly wounded and the path to the action involves a leap node. (they can also zombie at other places in the map because an event happens in the game causing their chosen active action to become unpathable at that point).

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TomTom ET Waypointing team member Status: Offline Posts: 745 Join Date: Jun 2006	Re: Waypointing - 19-02-2007 I think I know where Stormer is getting confused. In Fritzbot ET the group ID is strictly a way to control action from the aiscript. This is because it is best to use the goal tracker as little as possible in most ET maps. (It can really confuse you in the testing stage when the goal tracker fights with the aiscript.) However in Fritzbot (RTCW) the action_group is tied to the goal tracker since the aiscript is more a backup to the goal tracker. The ET Wiki isn't quite at the point that we cover everything that is common between the 2 versions so we still recommend ET waypointers read the RTCW waypointing tutorial and then "unlearn" about a half dozen things that do not apply to Fritzbot ET. I have started a wiki topic comparing the different versions but it still isn't vetted yet by Mal or Crapshoot. Definitely read the link Bindlestiff mentions. Crapshoot wrote it to help me when I confused something in one of my maps. Since then I have abandonned the goal tracker after goal 0 for ET maps. --- Most likely the bots sight is too low, but also make certain that the bots are not simply at the camp because of a roam or altroam that over laps. A bot at a roam that does not fight may be zombied. That happens because they have chosen an active action that they can not get to because of an obstruction (wall, team door etc.) or because they are badly wounded and the path to the action involves a leap node. (they can also zombie at other places in the map because an event happens in the game causing their chosen active action to become unpathable at that point).