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the bindlestiff · **Re: Anyone have any bugs/problems with 0.53a? -** 16-12-2005

The f0x and I have been furiously playing together for the past few weeks and enjoying every minute of it. We've had our share of frustrations too, as described in our other postings.

The most vexing problem has not been due to the bot AI but had to do with getting the bots/game to run on a dedicated server. Mal fixed the problem of us being invisible to the bots during the game. (An aside: our server admin was disturbed by the number of bots that we had in the game and decreed that we could have no more than six bots. Yuk!).

So we're looking at alternatives. Our best idea at the present is to install a separate computer at home to be used as a private dedicated server just for Fritzbot. Our main difficulty is getting enough upload bandwidth on the DSL line. Anyone got any idea about what would be required to play with 20 or 25 bots and 2-4 humans? All we know so far from testing is that 256kbps isn't enough for more than 6 bots and 2 humans. More players than that and the lag gets awful making the game unplayable for the one at the end of the line (me).

Meanwhile, we're running the F0x computer as a listen server and I'm connecting to it. Interestingly, I have become "invisible" several times during our play -- it happens in the middle of a game and can carry over to the next. If I disconnect and reconnect I usually return to normal.

The other difficulty with the listen server is that the bots won't load automatically when the maps rotate (that is, if both of us are connected). They load automatically if one is alone. I know that you had configured this on purpose, thinking that a "normal" player wouldn't need the bots if he weren't the only one playing the game. Would it be feasible to add a selection in the Menu, or a command in the console, or one that could be exec'd in a config file to give us the opportunity to alter this? This would give us the choice to include bots or not for any number of humans in the game. Then the map rotation would run without having to manually add the bots at each map change.

'Tis a great mod! Thanks for creating it.

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the bindlestiff Member Status: Offline Posts: 280 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington state	Re: Anyone have any bugs/problems with 0.53a? - 16-12-2005 The f0x and I have been furiously playing together for the past few weeks and enjoying every minute of it. We've had our share of frustrations too, as described in our other postings. The most vexing problem has not been due to the bot AI but had to do with getting the bots/game to run on a dedicated server. Mal fixed the problem of us being invisible to the bots during the game. (An aside: our server admin was disturbed by the number of bots that we had in the game and decreed that we could have no more than six bots. Yuk!). So we're looking at alternatives. Our best idea at the present is to install a separate computer at home to be used as a private dedicated server just for Fritzbot. Our main difficulty is getting enough upload bandwidth on the DSL line. Anyone got any idea about what would be required to play with 20 or 25 bots and 2-4 humans? All we know so far from testing is that 256kbps isn't enough for more than 6 bots and 2 humans. More players than that and the lag gets awful making the game unplayable for the one at the end of the line (me). Meanwhile, we're running the F0x computer as a listen server and I'm connecting to it. Interestingly, I have become "invisible" several times during our play -- it happens in the middle of a game and can carry over to the next. If I disconnect and reconnect I usually return to normal. The other difficulty with the listen server is that the bots won't load automatically when the maps rotate (that is, if both of us are connected). They load automatically if one is alone. I know that you had configured this on purpose, thinking that a "normal" player wouldn't need the bots if he weren't the only one playing the game. Would it be feasible to add a selection in the Menu, or a command in the console, or one that could be exec'd in a config file to give us the opportunity to alter this? This would give us the choice to include bots or not for any number of humans in the game. Then the map rotation would run without having to manually add the bots at each map change. 'Tis a great mod! Thanks for creating it.