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Originally Posted by >BKA< T Wrecks
The solution to this is easy: If it occurs (or, if you have some experience under your belt and see that it's likely to occur), turn noclip on and place B a short distance into the wall.
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OK - this is is totally ununderstable for me ???

. This is probably some trick - I need see an example - maybe You have one?
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Originally Posted by >BKA< T Wrecks
Oh, and Huntkillaz: I agree with bio, I still didn't really understand what you're getting at... sorry. Describe it again in detail for us stupid guys, please... 
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Nobody said that You are stupid...
I think I know what is Hutkillaz meaning. The problem is like on pict. nr.7 of bio, but the top of ladder is finishing exactly at the floor level or a little bit down. In this case You don't have the posiibility place a top ladder wp higher (like bio made this, because his ladder was higher on this map). I said that in my opening this thread post,too .
The problem is only when in this situation I described here bot should go left or right form the top of ladder and the ladder is finished at the top exactly at floor level (floor at the top of ladder) or a little bit down. The same situation but bot shoud go forward from the ladder - I don't have this problem. But this thread went in the direction to change all wp ladder on all maps, but my basic question on my first post in this thread was - is this really needed change all top ladder WP to get bot to work or maybe there is something to do in bot code? Why this was working before? Maybe can some coder say something more...PMB said only something about necessity of changing all camp WP's, because there were some bugs in bot's code - OK - but about ladders nobody said nothing.
Maybe SF can say something more - my example was form de_train - I'm sure he was trying this and it was workable for him - so it means something was changed in the code. Probably coders had some reasons to do this, but why once again nobody said nothing...

I will try this pwf with latest PMB version from 26.04.04 - probably it will work.
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I just tryied this PMB last release from 26.04.04 - I'm unnice surprised ???

- this is not working , too. Bots get stuck at the top of ladders (the same ladders I showed in first post of this thread) on de_train map. Probably SF will be unnice surpriced, too. He didn't know about some changes in the ladders climbing code, too. There is described (in versionhistory.txt) something about AIM code on ladders, but nothing about climbing...