New coder needs help
 

Title says the right thing:) Im a new coder (in c++) i need some help to start it off. I've been reading that a good way to start off with making bots is copy paste or somthing like that and try change some lines and see the diffrence. Well... I've tried it. also i dont know any place to start so if anyone know this.

Is there any totorials on the web that helps on getting out basis of the c++ coding? or is it worth to buy that book and read it?

If there are any good sites to get basis(maybe some more) can you please post it. needed:)

Re: New coder needs help
 

It is certainly worth it to buy a book and read it !!

You should get yourself a good reference manual for the C language. Once you know C well, C++ will flow like water. The best reference manual I've read so far is "C: A Reference Manual (5th edition)" (http://www.careferencemanual.com). Note that you'll also need a tutorial book, because a reference manual will tell you how to use the C standard libraries efficiently, how to write clean code and what is the state of the art in programming, but it won't tell you the basics if you've never written some sort of computer program before.

I don't know any good C tutorial book (I sorta didn't need one). But what I would find of the highest importance in such a book would be that the book goes at such a pace that the reader understands fully, *totally*, what he is doing. Everytime. Else you'll end up wrapped in class creation wizards, third-party tools that are supposed to do the work for you and MFC, and in the end you won't understand half of what you code.

What are you experienced in ? PHP ? Javascript ? BASIC ? programmable calculators like Casio or TI ? If you're *completely* new to programming, it won't be easy for you if you start off hacking a bot.

If you want to hack one, perhaps the simplest one for you is botman's HPB_bot template (not the full release).

Re: New coder needs help
 

I came from a php background (self taught) and my first attempts at C were with botmans HPB_bot the full version, not the template. PHP and C are similar enough to have some idea whats going on. I wont pretend to be a great C programmer but I manage to get along ok now. Biggest hurdle for me was learning my way about the SDK and how to access various pieces of info from the half-life engine.

Re: New coder needs help
 

well.. i have a bit experience in C#,

i got some more experience in Javascript, BASIC and some C.

Is there any tutorial's on the net that would help me a bit?

Re: New coder needs help
 

Whoa, C#, Javascript, BASIC and C ? You don't need any tutorial dude :) Trust me. Download the HPB_bot template and hack away :)
Start by finding your way around it, and do simple things first. Figure out where are the timers that make the bots chat, for example. Then make them chat a bit more on different occasions. Or try to improve their weapon usage. Or change the welcome text into a glowing text (compare with the source code of other bots)... there are a lot of things to do. Just be creative ;)

Re: New coder needs help
 

http://www.cplusplus.com
http://www-ccs.ucsd.edu/c/index.html

Re: New coder needs help
 

Well ive done it just seems so difficult... The only things i know the change is, server commands like "addbot" weapon skills and text and some very simple stuff. but well thats a start

@koraX

thanks i will be looking at the links

Re: New coder needs help
 

I need help again.

Well I have been reading much about c++ now and c(didnt know so much about c) and i got very good informations and readed some AI guides.

i downloaded potbot 2.6 source and hpb_bot template #4
Well my problem is the files not work anymore.. they been corrupted... everytime i open the file it says somthing strange. but another way i can do this on works.
but i dont know i shall compile the things i made everytime i compile i get a very small dll contains nothing. anyone got this problem or know how to fix?

Re: New coder needs help
 

You don't really need to learn C first.

Re: New coder needs help
 

you learn more from doing things then from reading about it. I'd say, go hack any bot source you can find and use the book as reference.