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VBS 11-07-2004 19:58

bots skill doesn't change why
 
hey
my probleme is the bots skill all the specifics bots are born to kill and not to die
so when i start a game it's to strong for me so i test the stupid to see their gameplay and then headshot soo what's going on since when a stupid bot kills
can it be that it doesn't take in consideration the changement when i add a specifique bot ? if not what's the probleme

if somebody know plz help me

that's all folks

sPlOrYgOn 11-07-2004 20:03

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
Yea..
we're currently trying to make the better bots, better, and the stupid bots, stupider...
the skill does change but there is little difference between the skills..

VBS 11-07-2004 20:15

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
okey thats cool

yeah but the difference is how they move but not how they aim or shoot i can't move my finger to shoot him that i'm already dead so like i said that's cool that your working on that can you just tell me when you'll finish this if you can plz

thx for answering me so quick

Burnt Powder 13-07-2004 21:50

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn
Yea..
we're currently trying to make the better bots, better, and the stupid bots, stupider...
the skill does change but there is little difference between the skills..

Yeah I noticed that the bots skill really is bad after the last dll I installed. This is even with minskill and maxskill set to 100.

It is as if they are playing with a ball mouse and when they move to target someone, there is a piece of dirt on the ball that is keeping them from actually targeting them and they blow an entire clip off into everything BUT the target, missing by 5 feet or more consistantly.

I used to have some trouble with the bots at 100 skill but it is nothing to go 60-2 in 30 minutes against them on a maps like Aztec, Inferno, Dust, and Dust2.

Burnt Powder 15-07-2004 08:19

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
Is there anything that I can do about there skill?

I mean it is bad (even when they are at minskill/maxskill 100). It is as if you are playing against a 2 year old that just pushes buttons and is not even looking at the screen.

When I first put PB on the server, I had people complaining that they were to hard and not fun to play against when I had it minskill 40 maxskill 60. Now at 100/100 everyone is a CPL player playing against someone who just bought a computer from Wal-Mart and decided to get CS as there first ever game.

I will be posting a demo soon to show you want I am talking about.

sPlOrYgOn 15-07-2004 08:21

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
try http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotBETA.zip

Burnt Powder 15-07-2004 09:16

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
Thanks I will give this .dll a try and post back in about a day or so on how the bots are performing.

VBS 16-07-2004 01:32

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
HEY

it doesn(t change anything this dll beta i tested to put minbskill 0 and max 19 and in the game i add an stupid bot but always kill me i have to run like superman if i don't want to die he make's headshot 7/10 and in the botskill menu the headshot % of probabilyt is on 0

it's like the potbotskill.cfg is not taked in consideration our it doesn't run or something like that

that's all

sPlOrYgOn 16-07-2004 01:37

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
recoil can make it go from shooting at legs to bullets flying at heads...
I really don't want to do it like CS:CZ where there's very unrealistic stupid bots aiming 10 feet below the person's feet and firing at 1 bullet a minute...

Burnt Powder 16-07-2004 07:42

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 
OK the dll dated 07/14/04 has not changed there skill at all. It is as described in my previous post. Now we have some good players on our server and some very VERY poor ones (majoity of the server) but no matter what, they both can rack up enourmous K/D ratios against bots on a single 30 minute map.

When I just go into the server by myself and am playing a 4v4 (me and 3 bots vs 4 bots), my teamates that are bots will have negative K:D Ratios but the four bot opponents will have rediculous scores of 2-15 , 2-14, 4-13, and 3-16 with my score being 60-2.

I do not know what has gone south but it did not used to be like this when I first installed PODbot back in late June and myself and others were challenged by the bots and many people cried for me to lower there skill when it was min/max of 40/60. Those same people did not become world championship players in a month and can now play against min/max 100/100 and whoop them like they are 4 month old infants playing the game.

Anyhow, I just downloaded and installed the dll that is dated 07/15/04 and will report back in about a day.

I really wish I had the know-how to help you out more with this but all I can do is keep testing the dll's and reporting my findings.
Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn
recoil can make it go from shooting at legs to bullets flying at heads...
I really don't want to do it like CS:CZ where there's very unrealistic stupid bots aiming 10 feet below the person's feet and firing at 1 bullet a minute...

What I am talking about is not recoil rather really poor targeting. I will post a demo sometime....it is quite funny when aztec is on and you can rush DD with your knife out as T and never take it off, have 3 bots standing in the middle (top of steps area) and run at them and just weive from the left and right and eventually run past them all (as the are reloading after blowing there clips into no where) and still have 70 HP.


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