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>BKA< T Wrecks 14-11-2004 12:29

Re: New Layout Update
 
The layout looks fine now. I say we do it. If the layout can be changed now, it can be changed again if someone finds out a major disadvantage.

Concerning the bot sub-forums, I would leave that decision to the bot coders. If they see fit, they can split their forum into more sub-forums, if they don't, they just let it be. Besides, for less visited bot forums, splitting into sub-forums would mean more sub-forums than threads, which is a bad structure IMHO.

Don't forget the visitor side of the whole affair: At least in the respective bot forums, guests will feel more "at home" if the layout isn't too different from what it used to be.
And if, for example, JoeBot users think that the JoeBot forum layout sucks, they can always discuss that right there, and eventually ask Asp to change something.

As for the waypointing forum: Once again, think about our visitors. What do they care about angles, vectors, different values stored into files, format discussions etc...? They care about having a waypoint file that friggin' works as perfectly as possible. And I think we agree that having a PB 2.5 WP for PB 2.6mm isn't as good as having a PB 2.6mm one, right?
Besides, the editor also has an influence on the waypoint files, as it allows WPers to implement things that would be so insanely work-intense with the old WP editor that NO Pb 2.5 WP takes advantage of them.
Not to forget the different use of button flags, and the new lift flag...
I say keep them separate.

Strictly speaking, there is no format difference. But for the user, there IS a difference. And the forum is for other users... or isn't it? :|

Pierre-Marie Baty 14-11-2004 16:06

Re: New Layout Update
 
Yup it's high time to do something. Argh.
I have a few comments: (in red)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Huntkillaz
possible drop down menus????? top right corner menu
http://isohunt.com/ <-- needs a bit of PHP coding, i.e. requires some time for doing it, but possible. What would you want this menu to be ? Quick access to every forum or something else ?

[ index.php: ]

Important Read First <-- /me likey

The Agora
nice separation but is there really that much traffic in the Agora to require several subforums ? What's good with the current layout (no subforum) is that all the active topics are immediately visible on one page. If we had several subforums we'd have to check them one after the other.
  • General
  • Polls <-- but having a special polls subforum is definitely a good idea.
  • Sugesstions \Ideas
  • Report Problems
YappA (Disccuss\Help Stuff)
nice separation
  • Half Life and Halflife 1 mods
  • Half life 2, Source & Source Games
  • Steam <-- does this really require a subforum ?
  • Other Games\Mods
  • Offtopic
  • Spam (junk post thread stuff get deleted after some months?) <-- what's the point of this one ?
Counter Strike Bots
like T Wrecks I think we should let the bot forums layout the decision of the bot makers. But separating them into categories is good IMO.
  • PODBot MM (A similar layout applies to all bots?)
    • READ FIRST (THIS IS NOT A THREAD BUT A POST GIVING ALL THE MAIN INFORMATION NEEDED)
    • General
    • Bug Reports
    • Coding
    • Suggestions\Ideas
    • Common Questions
  • RealBot
  • JoeBot
  • YaPB Bot
  • E[POD] Bot
Half Life Mod Bots
  • GrogBot
  • ShrikeBot (2 Mods)
  • Grave Bot (2 Mods)
  • HPB Bot (Multi Mod)
  • RC Bot? (Multi Mod)
Other Games\Mod Bots
  • Fritz Bot
Dead (No Longer Developed\Updated) Bots
  • Ivp Bot
Under Developement Bots\ModsGames
  • Racc Bots
  • United Bot
  • Obsesssion Software Ltd
Enhance Your Gaming
  • Mean
  • Metamod + Plugins
  • Scripting <-- you're thinking of AMX ? if yes, then okay...
  • Others
Forging Digital Worlds
/me agrees
  • Mapping
    • HL1
    • HL2
    • Other
  • Modeling
    • HL1
    • HL2
    • Other
  • Waypointing
    • PODBot MM Wp Format
    • PODBot n Clones Wp Format (PB v1.0-2.5/YaPB/IvPB/EPB )
    • Auto Node (Realbot)
    • Navmesh (Racc)
    • Other
Severs
very nice :)
  • Bot Servers
  • Server Admin Help
  • Web Based Server Tools
Developers Farm
  • Bot and Metamod Coding
  • C/C++/HTML/JavaScript/PHP coding
  • Docmentation,Imaging <-- what's the point here ? a doc is always specific to a particular project, hence must go in that project's forum, no ?
  • Sdk Discussions
    • Half Life 1 Sdk
    • Half Life 2 Sdk
    • Others Sdk

other than that, very good. Ah, but we'll finally end up with something potable ! =)

Huntkillaz 14-11-2004 21:09

Re: New Layout Update
 
re: drop down menu

that would be on the index

so on index u'd see
___________________________
The Agora

Yappa

...
___________________________
then mouse hover over one of those would bring up the sub forums.


alternatively we could have a side bar doing the same, just have main forum titles, click on one brings sub froum titles underneath then clicking on the subfroum bring it up on the right hand side


esentially this keeps the page changinin the same as it currently is even though we now have more sub forum this will be 56k freindly :P


re: the seperation in agora is due to being easier on u admins

ulitmately the most active will be the general then the polls, Report problems i think is good beacuse it won't get lost in all the other stuff and same with suggestion\ideas we wont have to bump topics as much to be seen

re: yappa

your right,steam has become stable so we can dump that
and so to spam

RE: doc n imaging

righty u r once again :)

stefanhendriks 14-11-2004 21:25

Re: New Layout Update
 
i go with PMB.

Though, next time PMB. DONT USE RED!!!! omfg, my head hurtss......... :)

dead bwoy 14-11-2004 21:55

Re: New Layout Update
 
Do people still play WON Listen servers?
If so, there should at least be a steam sub-category under Yappa/Half-Life & HL1 Mods/Non-Steam
???

Pierre-Marie Baty 18-11-2004 17:16

Re: New Layout Update
 
Is the difference between Steam a non-steam so huge that it requires a separate forum for each ?

Anyway, HL2 is out, it's high time to move on. If nobody sees anything else to say, tomorrow I'll post a new thread for the final vote.

P.S. What does "YappA" mean ? :D

Cpl. Shrike 18-11-2004 17:25

Re: New Layout Update
 
May i take a shot at the YappA... may i may i..

Yet another PotPouri AI.....

Smelly bot. :D rofl.

Huntkillaz 18-11-2004 20:45

Re: New Layout Update
 
general [chit-chat]ing

some ppl just [yap yap] all day

talkalot

yappa

thats how it got it :P

@pmb so how is the men goin to be worked popunders? sidebar? more clickin subforum?

Pierre-Marie Baty 18-11-2004 21:06

Re: New Layout Update
 
I will make it, once the new layout has been decided. It can be a drop-down menu, or anything. A drop-down menu would be simpler. Just tell what you'd prefer...

von Ryan 18-11-2004 21:42

Re: New Layout Update
 
Listen, just an idea from the top of my head: How 'bout changing the colours a little bit? This magenta and blue tones are so... "unlively", if ya know what I mean...


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