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@$3.1415rin 11-12-2004 12:53

Bot Aiming
 
because KWo asked me to tell something about bot aiming, I started some pages in the wiki.

http://wiki.bots-united.com/index.php/BotAim

not yet finished, also no error reading yet, but comments or €diting would be fine nevertheless

Pierre-Marie Baty 11-12-2004 14:47

Re: Bot Aiming
 
I commented a bit what I could understand...

@$3.1415rin 11-12-2004 16:43

Re: Bot Aiming
 
At the moment, i'm pretty sure the framerate independant stuff isnt correct. it works, ok, but it can hardly be mathematically correct. added some comments and a little bit of an explanation in the wiki

I guess I can work on that over christmas, or on my 7,5 hour trip back to my parent's place :)

Cheeseh 11-12-2004 18:07

Re: Bot Aiming
 
I was wanting to use Fitt's Law to create an aiming offset for bot aiming, I guess it could be adapted to 3d environment, it's currently used for analysis in HCI on 2d planes to get probabilities of peoples ability to hit a button on a screen.

check out Fitt's Law : http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~cs5724/g1/glance.html

I'm sure you've heard of it, ever had a look? (Just the fact it's quite well known and has been tried & tested)

Really this is what you want to use for multiplayer gaming bots, afterall we're simulating real people trying to hit a target with their crosshair on a 2d screen.

KWo 11-12-2004 18:39

Re: Bot Aiming
 
If I understood good - sPlOrYgOn made something to have botaim depanding of framerates and we have tested it at slower and faster computers. This part seems be OK. Look into podbot source to see this sPlOrYgOn's tweak.

@$3.1415rin 11-12-2004 18:51

Re: Bot Aiming
 
hm, downloaded http://www.geocities.com/scarletspid...Bot-Manual.zip and it looks like that's also based on my code, just having added some if statements to avoid bad behaviour on low fps systems.

€: also checked those links you posted after this, but they are offline, or telling something about contacting the billing department :)

KWo 11-12-2004 21:52

Re: Bot Aiming
 
The latest podbot source is here:

http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotsrc.zip

or You can take it directly from sPlOrYgOn's PC:

http://splorygon.game-host.org:8080

@$3.1415rin 11-12-2004 23:48

Re: Bot Aiming
 
the latest source doesnt differ in this aspect with the source I got from the link I posted.

Huntkillaz 12-12-2004 04:23

Re: Bot Aiming
 
that one (in my geocities site) is proabably 2 builds old


i have to update all the stuff :S

sPlOrYgOn 25-12-2004 23:46

Re: Bot Aiming
 
I'm so happy :)
It's Christmas and I've finally figured out what made the aiming look so strange...

Lets say theres a bot that wants to turn all the way around because there was an enemy on a raised platform behind him..
He'd move his crosshair up then to the right or the left (depends which is faster) then move his crosshair back down right near enemy..

if it was a human in this situation.. he'd turn to the right or the left (depends on which one he thinks is faster) then move his crosshair up at the enemy..

I noticed this on cs_assault when the bot was facing away from the warehouse and there was an enemy on roof and also when the bot was on the roof and enemy was on ground it'd turn down and up to aim at enemy..

then again this info has almost nothing to do with the algorithm made by @$3.1415rin and Killaruna, but is has something to do with the thread('s title).


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