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>BKA< T Wrecks 02-07-2004 09:17

Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Hello all!

In a thread on a specific PB 2.6mm problem, the discussion somehow came to the point that another moderator for the PB 2.6mm forums is needed in order to move / stick / delete / close threads.
Before placing a poll somewhere, I think it would be best to sort out whom you forum visitors consider to be a good candidate and who of these candidates is willing to do the job. He/she (99.9% he, given the gender distribution in this nerd-infected place :D ) doesn't need to have concise knowledge about the bot, but I guess a total n00b wouldn't be an ideal candidate, either. There might be situations where it would be nice if the moderator could help out ppl or at least direct them to anything helpful. It's more important that the moderator be a trusted member who's present in the forums on a regular basis and willing to browse through threads that don't interest him / her personally, just in order to see if the thread is in the correct forum or if anybody behaves unappropriately...

That said, think if you remember someone who left the impression of being a good choice for this job and let us know. Hopefully, all suggested candidates will see this thread and tell if they are willing to do the job. Happy suggesting... ;)

[Note to Council members: I didn't post this in the Agora since I considered it to be a topic that's only relevant in the PB 2.6mm forums - if this is wrong, please move this to the Agora and excuse the inconvenience.]

Pierre-Marie Baty 02-07-2004 16:09

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
/me votes for Wreckie or KWo

>BKA< T Wrecks 02-07-2004 16:15

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
I wonder if sPlOrYgOn has enough time left... on one hand, he's here very often (for obvious reasons) and knows what he's talking about, on the other hand he might be too busy coding for the bot - and he's the only active coder we have ATM, whereas the moddie job could be done by non-coders, too.

For my part, I wouldn't reject if a majority voted for me and nobody had serious objections, but KWo seems to be another good choice to me... you guys decide. ;)

von Ryan 02-07-2004 22:19

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Well, if anyone doesn't have objections, I would like to throw myself in, though I'm kinda new in here (comparing to some guys who have been here forever)...
But I respect Pierre-Marie Baty's opinion, since he has been here for a long time, and splorygon would be a great candidate too. Anyway, just throwing myself in. :-)

$eu_crey$$on

KWo 03-07-2004 00:18

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
I feel honoured by these Your nominations , T Wrecks and PMB. Because I want to be resposible , I have to say You something. Right now it's a good time for me and really I have a time to look throw all threads at this PB26mm forum and if it's possible - help the people. But this good situation - it's possible - will finish for me at the end of septemeber. Now I can dedicate to this forum much of my time even in my work, because type of the job I'm doing now lets me this. But probably this will change at the end of septemeber (not for sure, but it's a big probability). After I'll probably will be more busy (another job). When I'm at home I can't promise I will have so much free time to dedicate to this forum. You have to know I'm married and I have a child, so I'm simply too old to play CS :D.
Many times my wife said me I dedicate too much time to play CS and to this BOT. My answer is always the same - all men are interessing by something - for me is this game and this bot. But because I have to be responsible - I don't know if in the longer future I will can dedicate the same time here like right now - I can't promise this. For me is a good situation - if I have currently free time - I can look here and I can help somebody, but to be a Moderator this is probably not sufficient...

There are also some other things:
1. Other Council Members don't know me. They can't trust me and choice me as a new moderator here.
2. Many of people here probably don't like me style and type of leading by me the discussion - I'm aware of this.
3. Look at the parameter posts per day - my , sPlOrYgOn's and T Wrecks' (right now:my 2.32, sPlO 4.52, T Wrecks 3.86) - my is the lowest ...

I can't say I don't want to candidate or I can't be now a new moderator here. But IMHO T Wrecks is the best one candidate:
1. All people and also all Council Members know him a long time.
2. All people like him, because this is really a "peace man" - always nice for all and only if is possible for him - he helps the people - exactly this "feature" a Moderator needs.
3. Looking at this parameter like above - who can be a good contr-candidate?

About sPlOrYgOn - right now he started a new school (not exactly new, but with new teachers and new people) and dedicate time for coding and being a Moderator probably right now can be impossibe for him. But yes - if he can and he wants to be a candidate at the list for voting for a new Moderator - yes - I'm agree.
I suppose my nomination by T Wrecks was because he wanted be (like always) nice and he wanted nominate me because I nominated him. :)

About moving, delating threads at general PB26mm forum - if this is impossible to disable posting here by new members (something automaticaly), maybe after moving a thread to correct subforum the link to this thread should be deleted from the list of threads at general PB26mm forum and only a PM should be sent to this thread starter ("Your thread is moved here - and a link"). Otherwise the list of threads at general forum will be still incremented, so the new people will still post here, because they will think this is correct place. Another thing - maybe it's a good idea to write as a "sticky" thread something like "Read before posting here" and in this thread we should write where the people should post (what type of problem - which subforum). Maybe this can also prevent us against the situation the people still want post at incorrect place...:)

Nova 03-07-2004 04:29

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
KWo, just because other council members might not know you, doesnt mean automaticaly noone trusts you.

Me for example. Because of the lack of expertise, i dont post in many of the threads in this forum, but yet, i READ every single one of them, and your have proven yourself to be mature and reliable.

About your number of posts argument: I only have one thing to say (without wanting to degrade Spoigyorgon or TWrecks, this is general) QUALITY counts, not QUANTITY.

But you know that anyways, so why the heck am i lecturing you *grin*
Just saying, dont rate yourself down, i think either three of you would do a very competent job.

Sebastian

sPlOrYgOn 03-07-2004 04:58

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
yup nova's right :D
I need to think more before I post..
that way i don't post short little posts or idiotic posts that need follow up posts to fix up :D
KWo posts long big huge posts that he's put a lot of thought into..
I think KWo would be a great candidate for being a moderator on these forums..

T Wrecks is good too :D

maybe both of them as mod :D

[NvT]_KaszpiR_ 03-07-2004 19:40

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
KWO - but first he should write less in posts cause i hate long answers :D, also he is quite active here and can redicert ppl to other posts, also his insist on getting info abut problems can help to determie problem and direct to simple answer (i see his answers on other boards aswell, after some bad days for hmin i guess he is behaving much better now :D)

T Wrecks, hmm, why not? :D

i suggest both of them
i guess spyro got time allready limited by huge work he put in developing in sources, aswell as other coders

Huntkillaz 04-07-2004 01:36

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
anyone will do as long as they keep this forums in good condition

also maybe devote some time to make locked sticky threads and keep em update like the idea's\bug one i made..i'd be glad to make em ..but i need ppl to keep em updated coz of the no edit

i'm making another thread for install and pretty much any other sticky\important thread that was made all rolled into 1 or 2 maybe.

but i need someone to keep these updated and stuff. :'(

SoUlFaThEr 04-07-2004 12:52

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
right now i almost feel bad cuz i am not around as much as i used to but its just not possible :(

kwo deserves it...he does stuff :)

boo hoo

>BKA< T Wrecks 04-07-2004 16:14

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Well, I think I see a slight majority for KWo. We've all read his post, but despite the fact that in september he might have less time on his hands for moderating BU, I think he would be a good moderator. Heck, I don't have the slightest idea where I'll be in september! I'm just about to finish my studies, and afterwards I could be working in Nicaragua or whatever... In my current situation, september is science-fiction! If we run into problems, we can still get another moderator...

But first of all, we need one NOW, asap. That's why I'd like to come to an end and suggest we give the job to KWo, if nobody has any serious objections.

We others can help him out by directing his attention to (f)lamers and threads that had better be moved. Besides, we can contribute updates and new material for sticky threads (according to Huntakillaz' idea, which I consider to be a good one).

KWo 04-07-2004 23:30

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Thanks to all people voting for me here. :) I'm agree with T Wrecks - there is only a little difference in votes between us, so now we can let vote by Council Members at Agora. I suggest start two threads-polls at Agora forum - the first - "Do You want T Wrecks as a new moderator at Podbot2.6mm forum? (yes,no)" - the second - "Do You want KWo as a new moderator at Podbot2.6mm forum? (yes,no)". If they'll decide by majority in votes for both us - this forum will have two new moderators - why not? If they'll decide vote "yes" only for one of us (majority only for one) - then at this forum will be only one new moderator. If they' will vote also for me - personally for me is better the situation with 2 new moderators - at the begining of august I'll be unavaiable 2 weeks (holiday) and at that time I'll need also additional help (if they will really vote for me).
But - T Wrecks - I need Your acceptance - maybe You don't want to be also a moderator here - can I start the thread at AGORA with voting for You or no? :)

Huntkillaz 05-07-2004 00:29

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
both of u be moddies,

t wrecks can help with my stickies and wp's and docs while kwo is doing the coding and bugs and user problems or whatever =)

since they both know the respective area's more

>BKA< T Wrecks 05-07-2004 00:35

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
I stick to what I said: I'm going to do the job if ppl want me. So go ahead and open the thread(s) please.

Why I put the 's' in brackets? Well, because I think that one thread will be sufficient. You could offer 3 choices:
1. Only KWo
2. Only T Wrecks
3. Both of them

Oh, and I will also be away in the week before the 1st sunday in August... 5 days of Heavy Metal, BBQ, camping & beer are waiting for me... /starts drooling... :D

[EDIT] Just saw Huntakillaz' post... that's a good point. Maybe the poll should be like this: "Do you agree that KWo and T Wrecks become new moderators in the PB 2.6mm forum?"
1. Yes
2. No, take only KWo
3. No, take only T Wrecks
4. No, take somebody else (suggestions in post).

I'm not sure if we'd need '4.' at all. Post as you want - I'm off to bed now, gotta work tomorrow... CU!
[/EDIT]

sPlOrYgOn 05-07-2004 01:00

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
no no..
1 thread with 2 options needed...
the question is "Who do you want to be a pb2.6mm forums moderator?"
1. T Wrecks
2. KWo
Let people choose more than one..
and not checking one of them means you don't vote for them..
that way it's like asking both of those questions in 1 thread with only 2 choices..

KWo 05-07-2004 06:30

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
OK - I'll do this like T Wrecks said. It's much more clear for voting. I'm not sure if it's possible to do in sPlOrYgOn's way - 2 options and possible 2 choice for one voter. I don't have so much experiences in votes and polls here. :D

Huntkillaz 05-07-2004 06:35

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
poll means only 1 vote not able to do 2

do it wrecks's way

sPlOrYgOn 05-07-2004 06:42

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
there's an option to allow people to vote for more than one thing..

Huntkillaz 05-07-2004 08:06

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn
there's an option to allow people to vote for more than one thing..

but how do u know if alot of people voted 2 of em but like 3 ppl vote kwo only and so kwo will have more votes even though more ppl voted both???

sPlOrYgOn 05-07-2004 08:09

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
no...
if a person does not check a person it means they don't want that person to be a moderator..
but all you really need is for the majority of the council members to check that person's name to have that person be a moderator..
so each person needs at least 3 checks from the council members to be a moderator..
if a council member votes for only 1 then it means he does not want the other to be a moderator.
if a council member does not want either then he can leave a comment saying that.

KWo 05-07-2004 12:33

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
OK - there is opened a thread at AGORA.
http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=2203

I saw - there is really the possibility to allow people to vote more than 1 option, but I think all are used to vote once for one option, so I made 4 options there (much more clear).
Now wait with a patience, please. 7 days - max voting time - after this poll will be closed. But maybe our Council Members don't need so long time. ;)

KWo 05-07-2004 15:53

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Sorry for double posting, but [EDIT] doesn't change the flag "new post". Maybe some of You were already reading that above, but the situation is changed. PMB decided (exactly he wanted this since begining - it's my mistake, sorry) to change this poll to the public poll (not only for Council Members) - so You can also vote in this poll if You want.

>BKA< T Wrecks 05-07-2004 23:20

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
I'm placing my post here to avoid cluttering up the poll that's running now... Just wanted to thank you, KWo, for taking the time to start the poll and all that stuff. :)
My free time is subject to strong fluctuation, and the last days have been quite busy ones... that's why I didn't contribute more.

KWo 06-07-2004 06:13

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Don't worry. Sometimes You don't have so much time, sometimes I don't have so much time. ;)

SoUlFaThEr 06-07-2004 06:43

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
i dont have much time :)

KWo 07-07-2004 04:35

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Because the results of poll at AGORA seems like nobody is interesed to create or not new moderator(s) here, once again - please - vote at this AGORA poll. Now this is a public poll and aslo You can vote there.
http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=2203

KWo 12-07-2004 14:21

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Once again - sorry for double posting.
The poll at Agora is closed. I don't know what is meaning the situation when even the majority of Council Members decided to don't vote. OK - maybe there are now on holidays, vacations - but who knows how to interprate the results of that poll now? Probably we have to wait now for Mr. President's decision.

>BKA< T Wrecks 12-07-2004 19:39

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Yeah, participation hasn't been overwhelming... *cough* So not even a majority of Council members voted? Damn, now we really have to wait for a word from the Council because I really don't knowhow to handle this situation. One should think that ppl on a forum would be interested in having a say concerning who's going to moderate the forum and who isn't, but apparently that's not true in most cases.

Well, whatever the outcome of this story may be, I would like to thank all people who did take the time to cast their vote, no matter for which option they decided. It's always nice to see ppl actively participate in this community. You know who you are... ;)

biohazerd87 12-07-2004 19:40

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Count me in hehehehe

Pierre-Marie Baty 13-07-2004 00:22

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
The poll in the Agora is closed... I've made KWo and T Wrecks both moderators since a majority of people think they would both do the job fine.

Sorry for the delay... BU has grown that large that I can't keep up with all the posts everywhere. I guess it's the same for all the other council members anyway. :)

Nova 13-07-2004 05:41

Re: Another moderator needed for PB 2.6mm forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty
The poll in the Agora is closed... I've made KWo and T Wrecks both moderators since a majority of people think they would both do the job fine.

Sorry for the delay... BU has grown that large that I can't keep up with all the posts everywhere. I guess it's the same for all the other council members anyway. :)

No kidding. IN the new posts lists i pick what seems to be interesting / relevant to me and read :)


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