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Empower 30-05-2010 16:37

Bots makes stupid things = )
 
1) I was playing dust2 with default waypoints. 3 ter players vs 10 ct bots. And 5-6 rounds in raw there was nobody defending B. Why? When we planted only 3-4 bots were coming to us. Why??

2) Bots sometimes looking in some odd directions(walls,sky...).

3) I was spectating bots and saw this bug many times. Sometimes bot just stops and starts looking into the sky for 3-4 seconds and then continue actions.

4) On my server when bots dies they are falling slowly, not like humans. Why? It started happening when i changed server fps to 1024.

5) I met bot on open place we start shooting each other. I have 10hp left. And then the bot takes the grenade and starts throwing it in the me while I'm killing him. Isn't that stupid?

6) When bots win round they acts really strange. Can you make them look like humans.

7) I like bots tactics with usp they acts like humans, very nice :chef:

8 ) Bots awp are ultra stupid. I saw ct bots(hard bots) just running with awp, and looking for enemies. They should camp on bot spot, other camp zones for awp. And they should take secondary weapon when they wanna run somewhere.


Sorry for my English

Ancient 30-05-2010 18:59

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
1) With a newly created experience waypoint (de_dust2.pxp) is just made, it will take more than 5 - 6 rounds for the bots to act more human-like and to be more tactical.

4) If I remember right, Counter-Strike only allows up to 900 fps or some high unthinkable number like that. Test to see if you lower it, to see if the bug doesn't happen again. Because I know that isn't a problem with Podbot MM.

5) Sometimes this happens, but lots of times it's just me surprising them or they are out of ammo and have no weapons to pick up.

6) What do you mean by #6?

8 ) There should be lots of camp waypoints in dust2 (if I remember right). And you make a good point on when sniper players would run with a Deagle or USP pistol and then use awp when camped, kneeled down or pausing when attacking someone.

KWo 31-05-2010 09:26

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
FPS above 100 is pointless. It is causing higher CPU usage which finally leads to lags. The game is not played more smoothly with FPS 200 than with FPS 100. Changing the weapon from secondary to primary takes time. Usually - after that - if it's a sniper weapon and You have to change yet the zoom, You are dead. This is the reason why they don't do that so often (only if the distance is too short).
BTW - what is the version of podbot mm You are refering to? Please write the number (don't tell me the "latest one").

mattisbogus 31-05-2010 09:28

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
What was the version of Podbot you were using?

Also it is possible to have over 900 fps, you can have about 15,000 to 20,000 fps with a metamod plugin called MM-timer.

Having the ticrate to high will cause Podbot to sort of, " run in slow motion " and " jump in slow motion " reduce the sys_ticrate and the bots should run/walk/die at normal speed.

Empower 31-05-2010 12:39

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient (Post 61709)
1) With a newly created experience waypoint (de_dust2.pxp) is just made, it will take more than 5 - 6 rounds for the bots to act more human-like and to be more tactical.

4) If I remember right, Counter-Strike only allows up to 900 fps or some high unthinkable number like that. Test to see if you lower it, to see if the bug doesn't happen again. Because I know that isn't a problem with Podbot MM.

5) Sometimes this happens, but lots of times it's just me surprising them or they are out of ammo and have no weapons to pick up.

6) What do you mean by #6?

8 ) There should be lots of camp waypoints in dust2 (if I remember right). And you make a good point on when sniper players would run with a Deagle or USP pistol and then use awp when camped, kneeled down or pausing when attacking someone.

6) I mean it's strange when 5 bots that won round walking with duck or camping somewhere (I have never seen normal players doing such a things). Most of players when they wins round runs away, jumps,bhops, sprays, make other actions.
Ttry to play 1 vs a lot of bots, and look at them when they kill you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 61714)
Changing the weapon from secondary to primary takes time. Usually - after that - if it's a sniper weapon and You have to change yet the zoom, You are dead. This is the reason why they don't do that so often (only if the distance is too short).

If you want to create hard bots try to watch like any pro/semi-pro awp player acts.

Almost all pro players walks with awp but they does it smartly(not like walking with ak47), zoomly checking places, after they came out they should be absolutely ready to make a shot.
watch this, you will understand what i mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6O7cI9xf00

Bots are 2 week = ( Me and my clanmate played vs 10 bots(skill 100) on dd2. It was sometimes hard with ak47, but when one of us took awp it was easy to make -10... Bots tactics against awp is ugly! They acts so "smoothly" like they are playing agains glock player.

KWo 31-05-2010 14:14

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
2 people were already asking and You didn't answer:

What is the verson of podbot mm You are using (the number You can see while typing "meta list" in the console).

Empower 31-05-2010 22:28

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 61717)
2 people were already asking and You didn't answer:

What is the verson of podbot mm You are using (the number You can see while typing "meta list" in the console).

v3.0B20a

KWo 31-05-2010 22:34

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
Use the latest build (currently V3B20t), then complain.
http://filebase.bots-united.com/inde...category&id=46

Empower 31-05-2010 22:39

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 61719)
Use the latest build (currently V3B20t), then complain.
http://filebase.bots-united.com/inde...category&id=46

Ohh sorry I looked at other server dir, where are old pods and on server i'm playing bots were updated about 2 days ago.

KWo 01-06-2010 00:39

Re: Bots makes stupid things = )
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 61719)
Use the latest build (currently V3B20t), then complain.
http://filebase.bots-united.com/inde...category&id=46

That info is outdated. The last version number now is V3B20u. The link is the same.


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