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-Cop-

21-11-2010 16:46

Podbot3.x vs AMX Mod X

Hey! Do not know how true that I write it here to comment, but I have you the first time, so that excuse me. Maybe I have perhaps an interesting error information and ideas for podbots developers.

1. the main thing. now i use pb Beta V3B21. all ok, but... - when i play with bots (but its happen with all versions pb) on the server is slowly creeping up stats, CPU utilization, and ping and eventually the server Conter strike will crash. time from start DS of crash - about 3 hours (I Do not Know, to blame if it boots, but i when turn of podbots - it just does not happen, the server is not crashing and the clock). I can make and send daily reports screen CPU load with bots and no. Error: Fatal error - Dedicated Server / Cashe_TryAlloc: 2343328 is greater then free hunk :| Fatal Error image

2. too important detail. while resrtricted weapons are worked for real players in game (I think this is not correct). I think that information from podbot.cfg/pb wpmenu (pb_restrweapons "00000000000000000000000001") should be for bots only, and not to touch the rules of real players, they have their menu resrtricted weapons. :euro:

3. just an interesting idea. The new version of bots you want an option that would allow bots to understand the system as living players. to use the flags of the AMX users.ini (for example, I have a plugin that gives women the skin (T or CT) players, through entry of their names with the flag in users.ini, I would like to make it work for bots). otherwise - wants to place in Users.ini bots. though I don `t know, you tell this wish or developers AMX MODx. :confused:

its all worried me at the moment. overall I'm playing with your bot and have fun. your bots more interesting than some others:) thanks. Well, I hope to read the answers :thumbup:

ps im not a english-man, sorry for my english :blushing:

KWo	22-11-2010 19:38

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62597)

1. the main thing. now i use pb Beta V3B21. all ok, but... - when i play with bots (but its happen with all versions pb) on the server is slowly creeping up stats, CPU utilization, and ping and eventually the server Conter strike will crash. time from start DS of crash - about 3 hours (I Do not Know, to blame if it boots, but i when turn of podbots - it just does not happen, the server is not crashing and the clock). I can make and send daily reports screen CPU load with bots and no. Error: Fatal error - Dedicated Server / Cashe_TryAlloc: 2343328 is greater then free hunk :| Fatal Error image

Try this version of CSDM. It works much better with any metamod bots (especially tested with podbot mm).

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62597)

2. too important detail. while resrtricted weapons are worked for real players in game (I think this is not correct). I think that information from podbot.cfg/pb wpmenu (pb_restrweapons "00000000000000000000000001") should be for bots only, and not to touch the rules of real players, they have their menu resrtricted weapons. :euro:

It does restrict bots only. To follow weapon restrictions for humans - those from restmenu - You need to use this plugin. Podbot mm doesn't affect weapon usage by humans. If You have seen any coincidence between podbot mm weapon restrictions and weapon usage by humans - that means some other plugin affects humans and their weapon usage (i.e. sniperlimit or something).

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62597)

3. just an interesting idea. The new version of bots you want an option that would allow bots to understand the system as living players. to use the flags of the AMX users.ini (for example, I have a plugin that gives women the skin (T or CT) players, through entry of their names with the flag in users.ini, I would like to make it work for bots). otherwise - wants to place in Users.ini bots. though I don `t know, you tell this wish or developers AMX MODx. :confused:

I think I didn't get the idea. You may need to re-phrase it, to let me understand better what You want.

-Cop-

22-11-2010 23:04

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62598)

Try this version of CSDM. It works much better with any metamod bots (especially tested with podbot mm).

thanks, i will try it.... exuse me, but CSDM is Dead Match mod? i have not DM and not GG.... i have a classic CSDServer....

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62598)

strange. once, i was banned p_bot's tactical shield in the file podbot.cfg, then they banned me, the live player. Well maybe it's just my mistake, I still check it, if that - I apologize for the confusion

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62598)

I think I didn't get the idea. You may need to re-phrase it, to let me understand better what You want.

Well, everything is very simple. For example, I would like give the flag to all p_bots, whose names are registered in my users.ini file (AMXcfg). Onesome plug-in, (for example, lady_admin.amxx plugin) gives а models "women" for players on this flag in users.ini. I want to p_bots, with a fe-name, running in game with мodels "women". playing on the server with womens is very fun! But. Now - p_Bot - is no real player, and i can't give models "women" for bot with fe-name automatically, becouse pbots and amx/сonfig/users.ini not bundle... may be plug-and exist in this case...

KWo	23-11-2010 09:38

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62599)

thanks, i will try it.... exuse me, but CSDM is Dead Match mod? i have not DM and not GG.... i have a classic CSDServer....

Sorry - my bad - I have seen DM instead DS. Forget it.
Additional question to this problem - are You using CS steam or no-steam version?

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62599)

Now I got Your idea, but there is no ready solution. I believe You are trying to give to players special flag in users.ini according to names specified there. But do You mean - that plugin - changing the model for players - doesn't work on bot? If this is an amxx plugin, You can give me the link, I'll take a look at its code. Maybe there is something which prevents to use it correctly with bots.

-Cop-

23-11-2010 15:04

Re: Podbot3.x

its very simple plugin, this code

Code:

#include <amxmodx>

#include <amxmisc>

#include <cstrike>



public plugin_init() {

        register_plugin("Lady Admin", "2.0", "by @)(otnik inc.")

        register_event("ResetHUD", "resetModel", "b")

        return PLUGIN_CONTINUE

}



public plugin_precache() {

        precache_model("models/player/Someonefemodel_te/someonefemodel_te.mdl")

        precache_model("models/player/Someonefempdel_ct/someonefemodel_ct.mdl")



        return PLUGIN_CONTINUE

}



public resetModel(id, level, cid) {

        if (get_user_flags(id) & ADMIN_LEVEL_H) {

                new CsTeams:userTeam = cs_get_user_team(id)

                if (userTeam == CS_TEAM_T) {

                        cs_set_user_model(id, "someonefemodel_te")

                }

                else if(userTeam == CS_TEAM_CT) {

                        cs_set_user_model(id, "someonefemodel_ct")

                }

                else {

                        cs_reset_user_model(id)

                }

        }



        return PLUGIN_CONTINUE

but this code worked with user.ini for real players with "t" flag (ADMIN_LEVEL_H). also, for different models i can use other flag and other path's and filenames

Code:

// users.ini



"Someone Player 1" "" "tz" "k" 

"Someone Player 2" "" "tz" "k"



// ets

in User.ini im recorded all bots fe-name (Kim_Basinger, Jennifer_Anniston, Bridget_Fonda, and ets), starting the game, and understand after, that user.ini not work for bots :(

i nave non steam :blush: but... what different?

KWo	23-11-2010 18:01

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62610)

i nave non steam :blush: but... what different?

Non-steam = no support.
They are banning members on other forums if they are asking for support for non-steam...

-Cop-

23-11-2010 18:06

Re: Podbot3.x

banning? stop! you do not ask me if I have stim! i have steam! and non-steam i have to (on local pc, for my reasons). error on none-steam serv. what now, you will no longer talk to me because I asked about "Cashe_TryAlloc: 2343328 is greater..." at non-Steam serv? excellent. thanks for the "help", and thanks me for ideas for bots-united... In any case I am sure that this idea about fe-models interesting not only for me, and will be of interest to many who use bots on CSDserver, because my steam/non-steam is not reason for this...

KWo	24-11-2010 08:41

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62613)

I didn't say I'm going to ban You. I told You - at other boards - i.e. at AlliedModders - they are banning the people if they are using non-steam and they are asking for the support for it.
I was googling for Your crash "Cashe_TryAlloc" and from the info I've got it happens usually on non-steam servers. That's why I've asked what CS version (steam/non-steam) You are using. But I don't support non-steam. To fix this problem - even if it happens with podbot mm only - You need to ask somewhere else.
Hint - try to use for tests other bots - i.e. yapb or epodbot - if that crash will happen, too - that will make You sure it has nothing related to podbot mm.

-Cop-

24-11-2010 11:10

Re: Podbot3.x

damn smuggled. )) Then.... fine! I'm sorry, forget about hysterics ... and thanks for the tolerance )) with the error.. - i will still search. as an option by the way - restart the map. Now I restart maps every 30 minutes, up-time 8 hours with pbmm bots - flight normal. and what we think about female models, any ideas?

KWo	25-11-2010 08:45

Re: Podbot3.x

female model is AMX X problem, not podbot mm problem. If AMX X doesn' set any flags for bots, that I cannot do anything with that.
Show me Your users.ini contents, but change all Your passwords You have there - so nobody can see them here - and STEAM_IDs if You are using them.

-Cop-

25-11-2010 23:17

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62617)

Show me Your users.ini contents, but change all Your passwords You have there - so nobody can see them here - and STEAM_IDs if You are using them.

why? whaT the point in my users.ini?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62617)

female model is AMX X problem, not podbot mm problem. If AMX X doesn' set any flags for bots, that I cannot do anything with that.

:wacko:
sorry, i know about this, before my asking:

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop-

3. just an interesting idea. The new version of bots you want an option that would allow bots to understand the system as living players. to use the flags of the AMX users.ini

your answering:

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo

Now I got Your idea, but there is no ready solution. ...bla bla bla... If this is an amxx plugin, You can give me the link, I'll take a look at its code. Maybe there is something which prevents to use it correctly with bots.

im giving all codes for u, - users ini ang plug code

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop-

its very simple plugin, this code

Code:
#include <amxmodx>
#include <amxmisc>
#include <cstrike>

public plugin_init() {
register_plugin("Lady Admin", "2.0", "by @)(otnik inc.")
register_event("ResetHUD", "resetModel", "b")
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE
}

public plugin_precache() {
precache_model("models/player/Someonefemodel_te/someonefemodel_te.mdl")
precache_model("models/player/Someonefempdel_ct/someonefemodel_ct.mdl")

return PLUGIN_CONTINUE
}

public resetModel(id, level, cid) {
if (get_user_flags(id) & ADMIN_LEVEL_H) {
new CsTeams:userTeam = cs_get_user_team(id)
if (userTeam == CS_TEAM_T) {
cs_set_user_model(id, "someonefemodel_te")
}
else if(userTeam == CS_TEAM_CT) {
cs_set_user_model(id, "someonefemodel_ct")
}
else {
cs_reset_user_model(id)
}
}

return PLUGIN_CONTINUE
but this code worked with user.ini for real players with "t" flag (ADMIN_LEVEL_H). also, for different models i can use other flag and other path's and filenames

Code:
// users.ini

"Someone Player 1" "" "tz" "k"
"Someone Player 2" "" "tz" "k"

// ets
in User.ini im recorded all bots fe-name (Kim_Basinger, Jennifer_Anniston, Bridget_Fonda, and ets), starting the game, and understand after, that user.ini not work for bots

and and finally, u talk me this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62617)

female model is AMX X problem, not podbot mm problem. If AMX X doesn' set any flags for bots, that I cannot do anything with that.

where are your logic? you not need my users.ini. or you forget to write that, or you make a fool of me.
lol. I made myself plug-in faster than to get a constructive conversation with you.

KWo	26-11-2010 07:43

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62618)

why? whaT the point in my users.ini?

I just wanted to see You didn't mistake and You didn't write Kim Basinger instead Kim_Basinger (space instead underscore). I also wanted to see how real players are recognized by Your users.ini
Is there anything there You may really need to hide? I told You - change passwords - for Your saftety - then post its here. Nobody can do any harm on Your server if You don't how Your passwords.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62618)

and and finally, u talk me this?

Well - I was never trying to add any flag with AMX X to podbot mm, so I don't know if that is possible or not. It's nowhere described. To get the real info I would need to have time to browse AMX X sources and to see how AMX X gives flags to users. Then I would see if there is or there is not any prevention to give bots any flag. If I would see there is no prevention to give flags for bots, I would need to reasearch all podbot mm code to find if there is or there is not any clear of user defined flags. After researching (and also finding nothing) that I would need to maybe tell You this what I know about other CS behaviour for bots - on every round start the flag FL_FAKECLIENT for all bots are just cleared by CS and I have to add it in the bot code all the time (to prevent confusion by AMX aX and other mods they are checking if the user is a bot or not by checking FL_FAKECLIENT flag). If CS just do something, I cannot prevent that. If You are giving some flag to the player, but maybe CS is clearing it by it-self for bots - what can I do? To clearly answer to Your question - I'm not going to add a feature to podbot mm to read AMX X users.ini file to eventualy force adding any flag for the bot or not (like I'm forcing adding the FL_FAKECLIENT flag). If I'm asking You about something - it's because I'm trying to find the solution or I'm trying to find the reason of Your problem - why it's unsolvable i.e.

Just one stupid question more - what is Your setting of pb_detailnames in podbot.cfg?

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62618)

where are your logic? you not need my users.ini. or you forget to write that, or you make a fool of me.

Do You really think I don't have anything better to do than making fool of You?

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62618)

lol. I made myself plug-in faster than to get a constructive conversation with you.

Look - I'm trying to help users here the best I can - even with my much limited time I have to do it. If You don't feel enough satisfied after the conversation with me - You can try to find someone else to better help You. Good luck.

-Cop-

28-11-2010 04:11

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62619)

question more - what is Your setting of pb_detailnames in podbot.cfg?

i have pb_detailnames 0 (no skilldisplay and no [POD] prefix before the name)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62619)

Do You really think I don't have anything better to do than making fool of You?

sorry, really, i don't understand, why u ask me about my users.ini around... I already gave my user.ini, for u. You need standart text with comments from this (and myself admin names)? why? myself permissions and my admin model - its Ok, because im a not fake client. and this discussion is not about real players. my users.ini - at standart, nothing superfluous, the exception - my bot names (whith one flag), which I have already quoted

Code:

// users.ini



"Someone Player 1" "" "tz" "k" 

"Someone Player 2" "" "tz" "k"



// ets

"t" - fe-model plugin flag, "z" - defines a standard user, "k" - nick-sensitive, but i can not define this flag at all, without a difference. if idea with fe-models will worked, this option should not have values.

and i understand about this: users.ini do not work with fake clients.

I just gave an interesting idea for you about automatic define fe-models for bots, and one of the way for implementation this. but you started to answer me as though I'm surprised that fake client's not work with user.ini.

please, just answer! - if you are interested in this idea, and if interested, please, share the plans about, if not then and do not talk - let me know - I will think myself about automatically fe-model for fake clients

KWo	28-11-2010 12:52

Re: Podbot3.x

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62620)

Code:

// users.ini



"Someone Player 1" "" "tz" "k" 

"Someone Player 2" "" "tz" "k"



// ets

I already told You:

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62619)

I just wanted to see You didn't mistake and You didn't write Kim Basinger instead Kim_Basinger (space instead underscore). I also wanted to see how real players are recognized by Your users.ini

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62620)

and i understand about this: users.ini do not work with fake clients.

Even if You are thinking the converstaion with me is useless - I was already browsing AMX X source code and I didn't find there any clearly written prevention to add to bots flags same like real players from users.ini. There might be a difference within code of joining bots and humans to the server - when the flag is set. That make me courious - why it doesn't work then? I would need to make more debug tests to see what is happening with Your flags when the bot joins the server. For that I don't have time right now - same like for adding this feature to bot code, which is important for You, but useless for majority of other users (You are the only one asking about this).

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cop- (Post 62620)

I just gave an interesting idea for you about automatic define fe-models for bots, and one of the way for implementation this. but you started to answer me as though I'm surprised that fake client's not work with user.ini.
please, just answer! - if you are interested in this idea, and if interested, please, share the plans about, if not then and do not talk - let me know - I will think myself about automatically fe-model for fake clients

I already answered:

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWo (Post 62619)

To clearly answer to Your question - I'm not going to add a feature to podbot mm to read AMX X users.ini file to eventualy force adding any flag for the bot or not (like I'm forcing adding the FL_FAKECLIENT flag). If I'm asking You about something - it's because I'm trying to find the solution or I'm trying to find the reason of Your problem - why it's unsolvable i.e.

Wasn't that the answer to Your question? I wanted to help You by understanding where the problem is - because it probably should work - but You have seen it doesn't. I mean it should work without adding extra feature code to podbot mm. If I have more time I'll try to do yet the research through podbot mm code to see if AMX X flags maybe are somewhere cleared in podbot mm code (I don't think so). But if so - I can try to think what may happen if I change that for You (the code always surprises me - one change for some situation makes always some side-effects in other situations). Don't forget the all podbot mm code isn't mine. I'm just maintaing it by adding features, fixing old/new bugs, but I didn't create it from nothing.

-Cop-

29-11-2010 01:45

Re: Podbot3.x

Thanx for the support. im get it! my women bots are created automatically now. I am satisfied and happy :balloon:

ps. really, AMXx users.ini worked with podbot_mm.

KWo	29-11-2010 22:11

Re: Podbot3.x

So - where the problem was if it's working now?

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