v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

THIS MIGHT BE A BUG ????
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1)
Hi just started testing "v3B20o" bot jumps on top of box at ct psawn
and sits staring at the wall then chucks nade at wall still staring at wall.
then T bot comes in and shoots him still staring at wall.
2)
two CT Bots see each other the run in to each other then thay stop and wate for the other bot to move so thay can follow.
after a little bit thay start to leave each other but hesatate to go in the end a wall
gets in there way so the bots go there own way.
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i dont think this is a bug but i might be wrong????
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T bot has a gun in hand CT bot comes around corner thay see each other
then whate for about 5 seconds then
T Bot changes to knife stabs at CT once then CT bot chucks nade at
T bot then T bot changes to rifle and shoots CT bot.

some times a bot will camp at boxes ubove under pass for the whole game.
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not a bug but cool "i love this LOL"
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one "T bot" destracts a nother "CT bot" then a nother "T bot" sneaks around behind destracted "CT bot" and stabs him in the back.

PS:this is what i do LOL LOL ROFL
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Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

What map? Any screenshots of those situations?

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

de_Dust.bsp
and i will get you screen shots and movies
movies i will post on youtube
screen shots i will attach here

you said you need another beta tester

so i would like to apply????.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

here is the video: i think it is a way point issue not realy a bug i dont know????.
this time he did not through a nade
http://v5.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=25phi82&s=5

and T just standing near T spawn

http://i41.tinypic.com/2e1rgwx.jpg

he was standing there for about three to four minutes.

by the way the othere bots said "what the @#%$ are you doing thers only 0:45 seconds to go".

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

What is the date and time stamp of Your de_dust.pwf file in podbot/wptdefault folder?

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

it said:

Created: Saturday, 20 March 2010, 6:26:23 PM
Modified: Thursday, 23 March 2006, 11:05:36 PM
Accessed: Today, 26 March 2010, 9:50:27 AM

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if it was created 2010
how can it be modified 2006
????

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

OFF topic
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Would it be posable if a bot kill's a player IF no danger around
the bot kneals over the dead body.
while dead player SPECS BOT.
the bot Stabs the dead body one (1) to two (2) times????.

this would add a human touch to the bot.
"i have had this happen to me a few times by real players"

it would give the bot a personality of there own.
=) or is it a:nono:

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

The file seems to be OK. This is Your OS messing around date of creation (I believe it's Windows 7 or VISTA).

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

ANSWER:
I am running Windows XP PRO service pack two
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QUESTION:
is it posable to do this or is it too much reprograming ????
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Would it be posable if a bot kill's a player IF no danger around
the bot kneals over the dead body.
while dead player SPECS BOT.
the bot Stabs the dead body one (1) to two (2) times????.

this would add a human touch to the bot.
i have had this happen to me a few times by real players"

it would give the bot a personality of there own. =)
or is it a :nono:
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Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

NTFS may cause also that.
I have to figure out first what is happening with bots on de_dust map. I was testing it most of the time on de_dust2 and that problem didn't happen to me. More than likely I won't add that in the code to knife the dead body (I would need to add a check of sv_corpsstay time (or something like that) to make sure that body is whole still displayed. I would focus rather on bug fixing for now.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

at the moment im only testing on de_Dust will soon test on
cvt_dust2005j.bsp i have put in a request for waypoints as
there are none for this custom map.

the waypoint file for awp_map.bsp crashes my server the
one from your podbot mm file base.
Created: Thursday, 25 March 2010, 9:05:12 PM
Modified: Friday, 16 April 2004, 11:47:12 AM
Accessed: Thursday, 25 March 2010
so i have to find one that will work.

to day the same thing keeps happening "on the box at CT spawn"`.
after about 20 games a bot was doing the same thing but this time a T came in to CT spawn and CT did nothing untill he was shot then he reacted and left the wall then the T killed him.

will post movie as soon as it upload 36MB
upload of the movie keep getting upload error
file might be too big will fix tomorrow.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Could You write in the game's server console this command:
meta list
and show me here the output from the screen.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Here it is
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couldn't exec listip.cfg
couldn't exec banned.cfg
Compressing & saving Experience Data...this may take a while!
Experience Data saved...
L 03/27/2010 - 18:51:07: -------- Mapchange to de_dust --------
Usage:
Setmaster unavailable, start a server first.
Visibility Table file (pvi) exists and is newer than waypoint file (pwf).
Loading & decompressing Visibility Table
Visibility Table loaded from File...
Loading & decompressing Experience Data
Experience Data loaded from File...
[AMXX] Loaded 3 admins from file
Executing AMX Mod X Configuration File
Scrolling message displaying frequency: 10:00 minutes
Menu item 17 added to Menus Front-End: "Plugin Cvars" from plugin "pluginmenu.amxx"
Menu item 18 added to Menus Front-End: "Plugin Commands" from plugin "pluginmenu.amxx"
Connection to Steam servers successful.
VAC secure mode is activated.
Creating bot...




] meta list
Currently loaded plugins:
description stat pend file vers src load unlod
[ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxmodx_mm.dll v1.8.1.3 ini Start ANY
[ 2] POD-Bot mm RUN - podbot_mm.dll vV3B20o ini Chlvl ANY
[ 3] Fun RUN - fun_amxx.dll v1.8.1.3 pl1 ANY ANY
[ 4] CStrike RUN - cstrike_amxx.dll v1.8.1.3 pl1 ANY ANY
[ 5] CSX RUN - csx_amxx.dll v1.8.1.3 pl1 ANY ANY
5 plugins, 5 running

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

After testing de_dust about 12 h (with breaks, but summary 12 h) one time it happened to me also the bot was staying on the box and was looking at the wall for longer time. Unfortunately it happens so rarely, so I cannot figure it out why it does happen, then fix it. If You can tell me other standard map it happens much more often, then I can do this. Otherwise - if I cannot reproduce the situation enough frequenctly, I cannot fix it.

awp_map.pwf file - it shouldn't crash.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0todzdmjygm

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Hi when i applyed that way point the server crashed again so
i think the map carnt handle bots.

and as for the Dust bot thing i dont think it will be notest by too many people.


i have tryed all the bots like:
Zbot/HLbot/Ebot and a few more.
but none of them come close to your version: podbot mm v3B20o.


this is the best bot out on the market i think thay are ready.
thank you for having puting up with me.
i have the higest regards for you.

maps i have tested on:
Dust
dust4ever
Dust2
Dust2002
aztec
oilrig
backalley
too many maps to put here.

a bit about me
---------------

i have been mucking around with halflife for 20 years now.
i was on computers befor the commador64
it was a black and white tv keyboard and tapedeck.
i was making programs in basic
5 cls
10 print "---------------------------------------------------"
20 input $a
30 if $a = "Reaper" then goto 50
40 if $a = " " then goto 5
50 cls
60 print $a
70 print "you have loged in"

this sort of thing.
it has been years since i have tryed to think of this programing
i made one of the very first math's programs. lol
you are the MASTER and im just a humble home server Owner.

your Australian Mate james

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Can You play for test AMX X with standard plugins only and podbot mm on awp_map? I can't believe it crashes because of bots. There might be some plugin which is "more active" on that map and that plugin sometimes shows its incompatibilities between bots and it-self. It didn't crash on me (AMX X 1.8.1 with couple of plugins and latest pb mm build). How long time do You need to play that map until the server crashes?

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

if there is no bot's the server wont crash.
if there is bots the server crashes straight away no playing at all.
this is the only map it happens to so fare.

my plugins:
amxx_podbotmenu.amxx
weaponmenu.amxx
admin_chat_colors.amxx

that is the only plugins im running.
even when there is no plugins it still crashes the server.

can i please have your awp_map.bsp to try ????.
it might be the one i got out of the map base that is doing it????.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

If there are bots, but no AMX X at all - does it work? If still not - try this version of awp_map.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wjhugtyejmu

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

ok server does not crash now and bots are mean with AWP.
bots work ok some use hand gun ???? i thaught you could only use AWP.
any way only one Warning in consal:
Warning: Unable to open sound/misc/usc.wav for transfer

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

They are using all weapons they are laying on the ground. Humans can use same weapons.

weaponmenu.amxx - that kind of plugins may cause some instability of the server if there are bots. I'm not telling You this plugin You are using it will cause the crash, but it MAY cause the crash. Any plugin messing around weapons of bots it's potentialy "suspected". Gun game, CSDM - they are messing around weapons but they are doing it "the right way", so they are 100% bots compatible. More than likely Wepoan Omega is also OK. If amxx coders don't know how weapons are handled by bots, they may do a mistake in the code (which doesn't affect humans, but it does bots) - and You can see the crash. I don't know how it is coed in weaponmenu.amxx (maybe it is OK). So - telling "if there are no bots, the server works OK" doesn't mean automatically it's bot mm plugin causing the crash. If the map crashes with bots (and nothing more than bots is installed) it may suggest there is a problem with bots.
Well - there is a known problem with "weapon_strip" entity, which somehow is workarounded in bots, but that workaround doesn't guarantee 100% success. Sometimes it happens it still may cause a crash and we bot coders were trying to find the best solution to avoid that, but the current method we are using is the most optimal (I would say more than 95% of maps is working OK with weapon_strip entity now).
BTW - the map using really awps only is i.e. awp_city. Do You have it? If not, I can post it with my pwf file I have for it.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

i dont have it no awp_city.bsp.
i would like it yes please.
i have nothing els to do due to the floods here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGC8g2zqBP0

the problem with server crash was the map i got of this web sight.

BUT the map you gave me works perfect NO server crash.

some map makers dont know what there doing and you get what
happend to me.

I will say it again the map you gave me works fine perfect in fact.

by the way i have had no problems with the bots on map's:
dust2
dust4ever
and no problem with the normal CS1.6 maps like aztec/747/oilrig/and so on.

IDEA
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im going to get a map base with waypoints to geather
for this version of podbot_mm that works properly.
EXAMPLE: de_Dust4ever.bsp + waypoint file in a zip file pack.

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my Computer Specs
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MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P5N??????
CPU: Quad core 64 bit 3.0GHz
FSB: 1800MHz
RAM: Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 4GB (2x XMS3 2GB) PC-12800 (1600MHz) XMS KIT, DDR3
HDD: 1Terabit (1000)GIG
graphic card: ASUS EAH4650
NETWORK ADAPTER: ASUS 10/100/1000
==============================
HERE IS THE FPS TEST: net_graph 3
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sorry for the music but it was the music i was listning to at the
time of making this.
http://v5.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=dr3668&s=5
:blush:

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

How is related that youtube movie to podbot mm? :big_surprised:
What was wrong here? I'll post the link to awp_city (bsp and pwf) tomorrow.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

youtube vid is where i live.
just letting you know i have time to test the bots on new maps because where i live has been clased as a disaster aria we are in the midle of a flood!."the link is where i am stuck".

and thanks for the map ill download asap and test.
i have new 2010 maps and wating for some one to waypoint them for me.

i carnt get the waypoint program to work.

the botom link is nothing wrong just showing you that the new bots dont muckup your FSP
net_graph 3 like i have read on other forums.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

pb wpmenu (and WP Editor) works only on a listenserver (it doesn't on a dedicated server).

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

awp_city. The pwf isn't perfect, but it works...
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wjxmmiwz0gg

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Thank you For the map & waypoint files.

i think the Bot's are ready for release.
when are you going to release them ????.

as you said before all other maps thay work fine no problems.
i havent been able to test them on Custom Maps yet because no one
will make waypoint files for me for the maps.

if i start my Dedicated server in lan Mode would i be able to do waypointing my self????.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

I have yet an idea to improve bots avoid get stuck with each other. I have to put that idea into code and test it. More than likely - the new beta will be ready next week. If that unstuck code finally will reach my acceptance level, then the buil will be release ready. For now - it its still not (at least for me).

You have to start the steam and create a game (go to "My games" -> Counter Strike-> "New Game"). This is the only way to get it working. That means You have to have metamod and podbot installed in
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\your account name\counter-strike\cstrike\addons folder and You have to run it as a listenserver.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

OK podbot_mm_v3B20p
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have had NO problems with Bots getting stuck with each other at the round start.
have had NO problem with Bots getting stuck with each other when running in to each other in small psaces.

have had NO problem with Bots sitting on box at CT spawn for whole game staring at wall.

BUT every now and then at start of game a bot will kill a team mate with Nade out of 40 starts this happend 6 times.
and a bot will fire for no reason at ground or in the air but this is very rare to happen.
it was somthing in like 1 out of 100 starts.

have not been able to get movie or screen shot yet but still trying too.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

WAY OFF TOPIC SORRY
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I need a bind added in to a plugin the thred is so old
and no one has replyed to other people.
example: bind "v" amx_adminsmanager to bring up menu in game
instead of having to use console all the time.
bind and forget.
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=561417
posted by Alka AMX Mod X Plugin Approver

get plugin http://www.amxmodx.org/plcompiler_vb.cgi?file_id=22095

get sma http://forums.alliedmods.net/attachm...5&d=1197552048

Commands

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posted by GHW_Chronic Veteran Member's plugin.
amx_tempadmin GHW.Chronic 7 bcdefghijklmnopqrstu
- will give "GHW.Chronic" admin for 7 days with access of "bcdefghijklmnopqrstu".
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=112793

get plugin http://www.amxmodx.org/plcompiler_vb.cgi?file_id=2867

get sma http://forums.alliedmods.net/attachm...7&d=1124861565

get users2 ini http://forums.alliedmods.net/attachm...8&d=1115939068

so both these plugins added in to one menu????
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Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

Wrong forum to ask such questions. AMX X related questions should be posted at AMX X forum. If You need to combine 2 plugins, the best place to ask for this is this forum.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

KWo found a nother problem map name is:
de_Dust.bsp

two CT'S Stuck with each other

Bot Version is:
podbot_mm_v3B20q

Link to Video:
"http://v5.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=29o0174&s=5"

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

have been testing podbot_mm_v3B20q.
and no problems yet except for still every now and then on Dust.bsp
where two bots jump over wall and get stuk with each other
ONLY on Dust.bsp and not verry often ever.

so all seem's to be going well

PS: have you got podbot_mm_v3B20r ready yet????.
would love to see new version when it is out.

OFF TOPIC
-={SR}=-Northy said he will see if he can find the source files for me.
his server was taken down.
and he will try to find the bots files.

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

How many bots You are playing on the server to get such effect? How long time - at least You have to let them play to see such effect (it happens once per 2/4/6 hours?)
It will take me time to reproduce that situation and eventually see what is really happening with bots in that time (why they are not trying to unstuck). If those bots are getting stuck - is any of them trying to duck in that time (at least for a second or so)? If not - more than likely they even aren't aware they are stuck...


I'm working on bots - at least sometimes trying to hunt their enemies. They have to see the enemy first - then - if enough health and enough aggressivity - they are trying to go the the position of last seen enemy. But what if the enemy is already gone away? The bot cannot know where his enemy went, so the hunt task is finished... They are also too much scarried (if the health goes down and they can hear the enemy somewhere nearby, they are trying to seek cover and hide still...). Once that is figured out, V3B20r is ready...

Re: v3B20o bot sits stares at wall chucks hade
 

i play with 20 bots as my server can handle a lot more.
bots leave as players come in.
it happens very randome could be straight away or with in 48 hours.
carn't determen when it happens.

i think you should not worry about it i only let you know because
it happen's some times.
i think it is just de.Dust.bsp MAP

it does not happen on any other map at all.
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the bots seem to be coppeying off players as if thay are learning of players ????.

is this posable ??????????.

if this is posable then you dont need to teach them to hunt players because thay will learn to do it.

Kind regards Reaper