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botmeister 20-01-2004 09:47

Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Version 5.50.11 Build 20040119.00 (WIP)

* Added support for metamod Realbot, use realbot_mm

Use the following start up argument:
+localinfo mbotmod realbot_mm

You must load the mEAn dll from liblist.gam, then have mEAn load metamod. Metamod will load realbot_mm.dll from its plugin.ini file.

* Changed Sniping to prevent ducking and jumping while tracking a target, this was done to improve the probability of a successfull first hit.
* Changed the default access level of command m_exec from Admin2 to SrvOp.

* m_BotEnhance on | off
Turns on|off ALL bot enhancements.
(need to add team bias, and need list in here just what is truned on/off)

* Add m_botrunspeed <speed>
Sets running speed for all bots
speed: 0 - 1000
default: 0 (disabled)

You can use this CVAR to correct speed problems with bots running too fast seen under CS 1.6, or you can it tomake your bots harder or easier to hit by adjusting how fast they can run. The default of "0" disables the feature, and bots will run around at normall speed.

* Turned off forcing bots to run after they jump, making silent walking more effective.

* bots get flashed more realistically (easier) (need to make a CVAR for adjusting it)

* bots with skills over 90 will have the best possible "field of view" setting. Note the CVAR m_fieldofview will have no effect on these bots.

* Added Team Killer punishment and banning.
(need CVARs to adjust and turn on/off)

* Gave bots the ability to shoot back at their own team mates in selfdefense if they are shot at.
(need CVAR to turn on/off and adjust)

* Added new command m_enforcehumanteam [on [ct|te|any] | off]

When set to "on", humans will be forced to reside on a specific team. If the team is not specified, "any" team will be assumed. If any team is in effect AND enforcement is "on", the system will decide what team humans must reside on by choosing the team with the most humans on it. When all humans leave the game, the human team is set back to "any".

To fix the human team to a specific team, specify "ct" or "te" as the team. This will force the server to always choose the specified team as specified. The team will not be reset to "any" after all humans leave the game.

The enforcement is active ONLY when there are bots in the game, otherwise it will have no effect.

* Complete change of bot balancing

* Added two new commands:

m_humanteam and public say command "humanteam"

These commands display what team the humans must reside on, and if enforcement is enabled or not.

* added two new commands:

m_botsystem and public say command "botsystem"

These commands display what bot system is loaded on the server. For example: AkimBot or RealBot, etc.

sPlOrYgOn 20-01-2004 18:07

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.5
 
cool! 8)

for cs 1.5 & 1.5?

botmeister 20-01-2004 18:59

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.5
 
Wow !!!!! :d

Onno Kreuzinger 20-01-2004 19:23

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Hi,

will there ever be a chance for a linux version ?

...begg...begg...begg...

Cheers MeMeD

(i could provide a build environment)

AlphaTrooper 20-01-2004 21:16

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
So far no crashes, been running for about 12 hours now.

botmeister 20-01-2004 21:17

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Linux ... Linux ... Linux ...

I got a box ready to go just collecting dust for moths now, is today the day I finally fire it up and bang my head on it? :)

How.Dare.You 22-01-2004 15:58

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by botmeister
Linux ... Linux ... Linux ...

I got a box ready to go just collecting dust for moths now, is today the day I finally fire it up and bang my head on it? :)

YES!! Been waiting for over a year for the linux version :P

Onno Kreuzinger 22-01-2004 16:25

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
oh lucky me, i only wait for a few days, i hadn't known Botmanager before, but now i start to imagine what i could do with it....;)

i also wait for Stefan to get realbot riding the penguin :D


cheers MeMeD

Quote:

Originally Posted by How.Dare.You
YES!! Been waiting for over a year for the linux version :P


Terran 04-02-2004 12:52

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
When can we expect the linux version? Those features sounds very interessting and I would love to have them running on my linux server :-)

botmeister 04-02-2004 19:48

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terran
When can we expect the linux version? Those features sounds very interessting and I would love to have them running on my linux server :-)

I'm working on it right now, but I'm only at the point of installing Linux and learning it. It all depends on how fast I can learn Linux and make all the necessary changes to the code. This will take some time, probably a few weeks, perhaps longer. I'll know more once I at least have a working Linux system to play with.

Terran 05-02-2004 09:59

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
As "botmeister" sounds like a german name maybe I can help you on this issue of this board.

Onno Kreuzinger 05-02-2004 10:30

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terran
As "botmeister" sounds like a german name maybe I can help you on this issue of this board.

ah he will want to learn it all by himself, isn't it ;)

Infidel 11-02-2004 01:07

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Pff!? Linux version? As in to accomodate all those System 5 source code copyright violation users gone unprosecuted to long? In the light of the SCO vs. IBM 3/05 federal court date just how useful will that ever be?Anybody else know what "no end user Indemnity" means?I thought I was waiting on the next breakthrough version that would restore the original legendary performance of the pre steam days.I say legendary as word obviously gets around as there is currently a wannabe ScrapIron bot server{by qazme} in Houston trying to duplicate what I/we already did almost 2 years ago{good luck!}.

Spare me the coding standard arguement as Unix set the standard and Linus plagerized it,plain and simple.The security and stability angle won't hold water either as buffer overflow vulnerabilities with the Unix wannabe 2.4 Linux kernel are well known and W2k has just been awarded the highest Common Criteria rating ever achieved.Consequently,the USG is migrating over to single W2k/W2k3 domains from everything else as fast as they can find competent Windows techs to do it.I've met a few Oracle DBA's that lost their 6 figure jobs in the process trying to get Microsoft cert'ed.

If your still caught up in that "free shit/Microsoft sucks" pretzel loop and don't want to get caught on the wrong side of a Federal court order in the near future, consider switching to BSD.Linux will never come close to it's stability or security as BSD is LEGAL open source.The only advantage it currently has is SMP scalability and it should be obvious where that came from and where it's going to end up.Linus will never be that good either.

So I assume I'm stuck waiting for Doom3/HL2/PainKiller to be released so I can run human servers as there will never be the equivalent of FuZionBot after steam?Even in a short lived Linux version?...or in Houston via gazme?

botmeister 11-02-2004 06:15

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Infidel, welcome to the forums! :)

What game servers are you running these days? Looks like you did not restart a CS game server. Anyway email me and let me know what's up.

As for Linux and SCO's claims, I think this is just the usual FUD against open source. I'll be learning all about BSD after I master Linux.

http://www.linuxworld.com/story/34237.htm
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux03/...n_Story01.html

Onno Kreuzinger 11-02-2004 10:47

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
did i miss something ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel
Pff!? Linux version? As in to accomodate all those System 5 source code copyright violation users gone unprosecuted to long? In the light of the SCO vs. IBM 3/05 federal court date just how useful will that ever be?Anybody else know what "no end user Indemnity" means?I thought I was waiting on the next breakthrough version that would restore the original legendary performance of the pre steam days.I say legendary as word obviously gets around as there is currently a wannabe ScrapIron bot server{by qazme} in Houston trying to duplicate what I/we already did almost 2 years ago{good luck!}.

Spare me the coding standard arguement as Unix set the standard and Linus plagerized it,plain and simple.The security and stability angle won't hold water either as buffer overflow vulnerabilities with the Unix wannabe 2.4 Linux kernel are well known and W2k has just been awarded the highest Common Criteria rating ever achieved.Consequently,the USG is migrating over to single W2k/W2k3 domains from everything else as fast as they can find competent Windows techs to do it.I've met a few Oracle DBA's that lost their 6 figure jobs in the process trying to get Microsoft cert'ed.

If your still caught up in that "free shit/Microsoft sucks" pretzel loop and don't want to get caught on the wrong side of a Federal court order in the near future, consider switching to BSD.Linux will never come close to it's stability or security as BSD is LEGAL open source.The only advantage it currently has is SMP scalability and it should be obvious where that came from and where it's going to end up.Linus will never be that good either.

So I assume I'm stuck waiting for Doom3/HL2/PainKiller to be released so I can run human servers as there will never be the equivalent of FuZionBot after steam?Even in a short lived Linux version?...or in Houston via gazme?

i won't comment this, but eh it's political and you sound like voting for some guy pretending god send him on a miss...

cheers anyways ;-)

p.s.
i cant stand it after having worked with se@freebsd,org:
FreeBSD ain't no open software, you know that don't you ?
release cycles, commit access and all that stuff that makes up linux, which is not SMP or NUMA, i don't need that, my kernel does not have that code, cause it aint' no supercluster or mainframe. i if would run one, i'd choose AIX or FreeBSD but who runns NUMA systems ?
Oh and for whinedoze having cert's, they must have removed IE and installed Netscape/Mozilla! *ggggg*

Terran 11-02-2004 13:39

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
@Infidel:
Your post is IMHO ways off topic. This forum is about bots, not about operating systems. And currently all bots here are designed to work along with the HL engine which itself is natively available for windows and linux but not for *BSD. Hence it's admissible to ask for linux versions...

Btw: the copyright issue has to be clarified by the courts not by us

Pierre-Marie Baty 11-02-2004 15:36

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
@Hacksmith the Infidel:
Good day. We appreciate that you came to this forum. But as stated in our FBRC, which you must have read before registering, please moderate your posts. Don't start a flamewar and keep discussions on topic as much as possible. You have your views on politics, economy and a lot of subjects (up to the place of some middle east religions on earth and the respectability of frenchmen) certainly, and we have ours. Please share only those which are relevant to this forum, and don't flame people. Qazme was not necessarily supposed to know that there existed a Scrap Iron podbot server 2 years ago.

Besides, if you are not a programmer you have strictly no authority to debate whether GNU/Linux did "plagerize" the AT&T UNIX or not. If you read the facts you'll see that Linux, which is just a KERNEL, not a system, was developed by Mr Torvalds out of Minix as a CHEAP alternative to UNIX for PCs based on the Intel architecture. It has not, and never had, any other ambition. Its first target was computer engineering students. And additionally, if you start hyping here the latest Microsoft OSes for their so-said security, some people here will gently remind you that Microsoft DID, indeed, plagerize the BSD network layer to put it in its once praised Win2k/XP. Plagerize ? wait, RIP OFF. Easy: the BSD license allows any commercial use of its source code. And not counting the fact that I trust more an OS for which there are security fixes once a week than one for which these fixes came out once a month only, you can be certain that large parts of the BSD sockets layer are already implemented in the Linux kernel. Look it up, it's there.

And finally, as Terran says, the Half-Life engine supports 2 platforms: Windows and Linux. Go and look up the proportion of trustable HL servers on the net that run Linux, and the proportion that run Windows. This repartition legitimizes greatly the need to make third-party addons available for Windows AND for Linux. Regardless of the so-said quality of each operating system, which is here off-topic and pointless.

Respect is due, it is not earned. It doesn't prevent me to wish you a good time on our forums. Welcome.

Onno Kreuzinger 11-02-2004 15:46

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
did thought he knew, 80%+ of all playminutes are made on linux servers, and for that copyright law suit, in my country linux won and SCO lost: in germany they allready had to pay 10 000 € (12500 $) as fine for repeating, that inux users have broken the law. So for me a german court is closer, and that ruled imideately that SCO must proof, or pay. They had to pay :-)
*edited*
see here for the court ruling (english by google *g*):

Terran 11-02-2004 17:18

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
I didn't want to drive this any further but I have to clarify that linux isn't based on minix. If someone is interested in the history of linux: google ;)

Pierre-Marie Baty 11-02-2004 17:53

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
arguably yes... it was, however, originally a "minix-like" :)

We're offtopic anyway.

Infidel 12-02-2004 02:19

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
My goodness,it seems I've struck a nerve.
In reply to memed;
Quote:

i won't comment this, but eh it's political and you sound like voting for some guy pretending god send him on a miss...
Then what do you call your post?

Quote:

FreeBSD ain't no open software, you know that don't you ?
Then what is it? I got a copy of 5.1 for free.It's constantly being improved by varios contributors;Looks like open source to me.

Quote:

my kernel does not have that code
What mystery Krenel are you running?

Quote:

Oh and for whinedoze having cert's, they must have removed IE and installed Netscape/Mozilla! *ggggg
Not exactly,but the current veraion is IE6.You cana upgrade for free easily if you have the bandwidth.

In reply to Terran;
Memed posted
Quote:

Hi,

will there ever be a chance for a linux version ?

...begg...begg...begg...

Botmeister,the thread starter posted:
Quote:

Linux ... Linux ... Linux ...

I got a box ready to go just collecting dust for moths now, is today the day I finally fire it up and bang my head on it?
How Dare you posted:
Quote:

YES!! Been waiting for over a year for the linux version
Memed posted again with:
Quote:

i also wait for Stefan to get realbot riding the penguin
And then you posted:
Quote:

When can we expect the linux version? Those features sounds very interessting and I would love to have them running on my linux server :-)
And your reply to my post was:
Quote:

Your post is IMHO ways off topicThis forum is about bots, not about operating systems.
Actually The title of this thread concerns the mEAnbotmod,not any particular bot.
Quote:

And currently all bots here are designed to work along with the HL engine which itself is natively available for windows and linux but not for *BSD.
So in your opinion,with the release of Linux mEAnbotmod ,which will be fully compatible with the Linux HLDS,the Linux user will be able to run all bots written for the HL engine?

Quote:

Btw: the copyright issue has to be clarified by the courts not by us
And when the courts do clarify the copyright issue where will you be concerning the outcome?
The question was:
Quote:

Anybody else know what "no end user Indemnity" means?
By reasonable deduction I can conclude your answer is "no not me".

In reply to PMB:
Quote:

Don't start a flamewar and keep discussions on topic as much as possible
What was the topic,in your opinion?

Quote:

Please share only those which are relevant to this forum, and don't flame people
Is O/S compatibility,stability,security in relation to current versions of mEAnbotmod and the majority of bots written for the purpose of running dedicated servers for any game engine "relevant"? And who in your opinion,have I flamed?

Quote:

Qazme was not necessarily supposed to know that there existed a Scrap Iron podbot server 2 years ago.
But you and Botmeister alluded to the fact in another forum of which I clarified in detail accordingly.You can reference his reply.

Quote:

Besides, if you are not a programmer you have strictly no authority to debate whether GNU/Linux did "plagerize" the AT&T UNIX or not.
I'm currently working on an MCSD whether you like it or not and it doesn't take any "authority" to deduct that linux is a direct derivative of Unix which is 1 of the first things you learn about in the course of acquiring multiple MS certifications.

Quote:

If you read the facts you'll see that Linux, which is just a KERNEL, not a system, was developed by Mr Torvalds out of Minix as a CHEAP alternative to UNIX for PCs based on the Intel architecture.
I think you've thouroughly demonstrated the limits of your expertise with that statement.

Quote:

And additionally, if you start hyping here the latest Microsoft OSes for their so-said security, some people here will gently remind you that Microsoft DID, indeed, plagerize the BSD network layer to put it in its once praised Win2k/XP. Plagerize ? wait, RIP OFF.
I would enjoy your qualification of that statement. I highly doubt you have a linux ported version of whatever remnant of a bot you currently have written or ever will.And we both know it's not a lack of hardare that's holding you back{Could it be a chemical dependency?,,,,and I don't mean Perl,Python,Java,etc.}.

Quote:

And finally, as Terran says, the Half-Life engine supports 2 platforms: Windows and Linux. Go and look up the proportion of trustable HL servers on the net that run Linux, and the proportion that run Windows
And how many of those servers are running any bot currently?{Your not going to bore me with any PLbot references are you?} Is it possible that there are more Windows bot servers than there ever will be Linux bot servers? Thank you both for pointing that out.What did you say this forum was about?

You've always had a problem interpreting context when it comes to English and I see this hasn't changed. For those of us who put our money where our mouth is in any effort have a tendency to see a little further ahead down the perverbial road.The choice of O/S is indeed a critical one in that the building of a network is what you do with it and can entail a great expense regardless of the kernel in question. And if a Federal court determines that a copyright has been infringed after we have build a network around the kernel in question,which is highly likely on this side of the planet,the end user > that's me < gets to start all over at my exspense.I don't expect you to fathom all the financial aspects of such a scenario but there may be someone else that is dedicated enough to get themselves into such a situation from a strictly entrepeneurial circumstance which would be devastating because we can't afford to turn free computers off and walk away with the attitude the "Americans are stupid,Osama Bin laden and Saddam Hussein are my heros ,and Microsoft sucks".
The intent of my response to Botmeister's thread was to submit the facts as I see them in relation to time/money spent in the furtherment of the project at hand.I feel safe in assuming that he appreciates my input as he has since we first met.If it wasn't for either the stupidity ,or intentional malviolence towards 3rd party AI applications,of the programmers at Valve my/his Bot server array would still be going strong.Strong as in stronger than any other collection of botservers ever assembled.And while we're at it,you can rest assured that he has done more for the entire concept of AI gaming ,to include debugging and maximizing the performance of all other applications that he could get his hands on in the process than everyone else's efforts collective or otherwise in my real world experience not my opinion.I apologize for making anyone else feel insecure about their inability to comprehend the performance levels he/we have already achieved.
Those are the facts as I see them and you have just received the respect that is due you.

Onno Kreuzinger 12-02-2004 14:57

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
omg, you must have been nuking the server with that post :-)

cool down re-read you post and edit what is wrong, then i will answer by PM.

Pierre-Marie Baty 12-02-2004 15:35

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel
I highly doubt you have a linux ported version of whatever remnant of a bot you currently have written or ever will.And we both know it's not a lack of hardare that's holding you back{Could it be a chemical dependency?,,,,and I don't mean Perl,Python,Java,etc.}.

Sure, I smoke shit, I live on cocaine, I also take two liters of bourbon straight each breakfast, and half a dozen pills of LSD at noon. I have posters of Saddam and Osama in my bedroom and the Quran is my bed book. Right ? That's what you think ? Look around, I'm sure you will find many people here who share this opinion about me. I don't fancy to see that yours has not changed since the last emails we exchanged during the political argument which ended our relationship, argument that YOU brought up.

It's not the lack of hardware, indeed. Are you still at Fort Worth ? Now that I have a few resources I can afford to put an end to this debt. Send me a PM with your postal address, what is written on the shipment boxes here is unreadable.


BTW, according to the FBRC, further personal disputes shall be sent to private discussions, or preferally off the board.



As for the rest of the argument,
Quote:

What was the topic,in your opinion?
Perhaps that people were requesting that the mEAn mod be ported to Linux ? I see no "is Linux a good OS" involved here.

Quote:

And who in your opinion,have I flamed?
You scorned for qazme, letting hear that he was unable to come up with a bot server even worth a look compared to your Scrap Iron server 2 years ago. English is not my native language, so if I understood it wrong I apologize. Your post, still, was not an encouragment at all - our FBRC considers we must welcome newcomers warmly and provide them with as much assistance and encouragment as possible. Your post was not and encouragement to qazme, or I got it completely wrong.

Quote:

But you and Botmeister alluded to the fact in another forum of which I clarified in detail accordingly.You can reference his reply.
Yes, AFTER he told us his bot server was named "Scr@pIron". Hence qazme was NOT supposed to know that a Scrap Iron server existed 2 years ago when he CHOOSED to name his own Scr@pIron.

Quote:

I'm currently working on an MCSD whether you like it or not and it doesn't take any "authority" to deduct that linux is a direct derivative of Unix which is 1 of the first things you learn about in the course of acquiring multiple MS certifications.
It doesn't surprise me that during your MICROSOFT certification course you're taught that Linux is a DERIVATIVE of Unix, but whatever, this is wrong. Sorry. Linux is not a DERIVATIVE of Unix, it is an UNIX-like operating system. Nuance. And as long as YOU won't come and show us ONE LINE of copyrighted UNIX code that we can look up in the Linux kernel, you have no authority to say that. Neither have I. Only Mr Torvalds, who wrote Linux, and a justice court, have authority. NOT US. I'm sorry but I have to refute your point.

Quote:

I think you've thouroughly demonstrated the limits of your expertise with that statement.
"based off". English language pitfall, maybe. I apologize. I meant that Linus Torvalds originally wrote Linux with Minix as reference. And you can't refute this, these are facts. However I'd be interested to know the limits of a MS-certificated admin's expertise on this domain.

Quote:

I would enjoy your qualification of that statement.
Here you are. Just mount a Windows hard disk on an Unix box, and issue this command at the UNIX shell:
Code:

#  rgrep -r -l "The Regents of the University of California" /windows-mount-point
As you see it's not "my expertise", it's binarily factual. 0 and 1s. And you can't change this. Oh... sorry. I realize I am refuting a lot of things of what you said.

Quote:

And how many of those servers are running any bot currently?{Your not going to bore me with any PLbot references are you?} Is it possible that there are more Windows bot servers than there ever will be Linux bot servers? Thank you both for pointing that out.What did you say this forum was about?
Now you wonder why there is so much bot servers running Windows ? Well, perhaps because there are not that much bot coders developing under Linux. Bot coders are gamers, too. Already thought of that ?

I hope my reply was not too aggressive, but there are some disgruntled rants who pop up here and there without much to back them up that I can't stand. Calm down, Hacksmith, take a breathe of fresh air and let's work in a cooperative way at least. Finally. I'm fed up with these childish arguments.

Terran 12-02-2004 17:19

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel
And your reply to my post was: Quote:
Your post is IMHO ways off topicThis forum is about bots, not about operating systems.

Actually The title of this thread concerns the mEAnbotmod,not any particular bot.

Well, at least it wasn't about "linux is better/worse than windows". And with the term "forum" I meant "http://forums.bots-united.com" not just this particular.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel
So in your opinion,with the release of Linux mEAnbotmod ,which will be fully compatible with the Linux HLDS,the Linux user will be able to run all bots written for the HL engine?

No, I never did. As I understood mEAnbotmod adds features to already working bots. And I would love to have those features. That's it. And the coder of this mod stated that there will be a linux version he just didn't say when it will be available. Therefore I tried to motivate him so that he sees there is at least someone who would enjoy a linux version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel
And how many of those servers are running any bot currently?{Your not going to bore me with any PLbot references are you?} Is it possible that there are more Windows bot servers than there ever will be Linux bot servers? Thank you both for pointing that out.What did you say this forum was about?

I don't know any number but surely there will be much more bot servers running with windows than with linux TODAY(and we all know why). But as you might have missed today there is more than just plbot (which btw. doesn't work with CS1.6). I'm currently using joebot, used realbot before the last steam update, tested podbot and the legendary hpb_bot - all of them at my linux server...
I enjoy playing with all those different bots and I try to understand the technics which they use. I made some minor fixes to some bot sourcecode I got my hands on and made them compile and run at my linux box. It isn't that difficult once you know what is different between the both platforms...

botmeister 12-02-2004 17:33

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
HOLY SHIT! What are we arguing about, Linux vs Windows, or are we opening up some deep wounds here?

As moderator of this forum, I ask that you all please take personal fights to PM and off the public board. Thanks.

botmeister

Onno Kreuzinger 12-02-2004 17:36

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Hi Terran,
you answerd to quotes he made to me (looked atleast like), but anyways, like PMB said, this is allready offending the rules (yes PMB and me too). Please consider talking via PM. I know it's hard, we haven't had such flamewar here since starting, but it's more important to stop it than convincing anybody with anything.

Cheers memed

Terran 12-02-2004 17:59

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Agreed.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone and appologize.

Fooska 12-02-2004 23:00

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Hey botmeister... would it be possible for you to release a version (maybe with your next official release) that is for bots managing only without all the complicated admin/clan/or sound features?
Just simple without all the extras?

Thanks

botmeister 18-02-2004 08:20

Re: Beta 5.50.11 released for CS 1.5 & 1.6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fooska
Hey botmeister... would it be possible for you to release a version (maybe with your next official release) that is for bots managing only without all the complicated admin/clan/or sound features?
Just simple without all the extras?

Thanks

That would be hard to do because of the way the mod was built. I'll think about what you are suggesting anyway.

You do not need to use the sounds, and clan features, which can all be disabled. You probably will need some of the admin features, at least to gain access to the bot control commands.


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