HL2DM bots...
 

guess what ;) ...

they work! :D

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How about providing the run down how to do this. I'm moving to a rural area and I've been looking for this mod.

Thanks..

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All my bots do is to press primary attack with the grav gun occasionaly trying to attack me, but they haven't picked stuff up.. so I have to dropped stuff near them so they can fire things at me and hit me :P

I don't think we can get very far without some weapon code for bots.

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it's a matter of time, pony... give the coders a few weeks and I bet a HL2DM bot is out then :)

Grav gun code, cheesy ? Hah, don't tell me that will stop you! :D

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Still nothing for us to play with ?
How are the bots comming along PMB?

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Well, I was expecting someone would have ported botman's HPB template to Source... it's straightforward... but since nobody seems to be doing it, maybe I gotta do that myself :|

Is it just me or is everybody else extremely busy ? Not that I'm not myself, anyway... :|

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I'm just to technical impaired, I guess. ???:(
Maybe if somebody wrote a nice guide or tutorial, I would manage (I hope) But if somebody just released an working bot, it would be even better. Nothing fancy you know. Just some stupid bot is good enough for me ;)

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"Is it just me or is everybody else extremely busy ? Not that I'm not myself, anyway..."

I've been busy working on a game, but I've got some more freed time now that Brothers In Arms is done. I'm currently working on a super secret project that's Half-Life2 related that will be similar to a project I had on my old planethalflife.com website.

Stay tuned. :)

botman

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Hahaha, said that way, I really, really wonder what it could be :D

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hehe.

I have my bot source working with HL2 although I haven't got the latest up yet. I need to do that soon, I'll have a lot of free time for a while.

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Here we go, I did it :P (my latest source that works with hldm2)

http://filebase.bots-united.com/inde...on=file&id=259

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"Hahaha, said that way, I really, really wonder what it could be"

It's probably not what you think it is.

botman

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Thx man.

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hey anyone compiled the bots yet i would love to try them out :D

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You would have probably heard about it if someone completed a bot for HL2DM.

No news = no bot.

botman

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There is still no weapons code out there that allows bots to figure out what weapons they have/ammo etc, (botman: can you rant this to everyone in hlcoders for us? :P )

I mean, the bot template with the latest SDK assumes the user enters the weapon the bots should use as a cvar in the console, which is certainly not the way it should be done as a final bot..

any news in this department ??

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"any news in this department ??"

I had talked to Alfred and others at Vavle about this before. I think that they believe that the latest SDK includes everything someone needs to create a bot for any Steam engine game. I haven't had the time (or the desire) to look at this stuff in depth in the last 6 months, so I can't say for certain if Valve is correct and people just aren't seeing how this should be done, or if things have been left out and Valve is too busy working on other stuff to care about it right now.

botman

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i've been looking into the 'example' bots that valve provided with the SDK, seems very crude..

*Bot runs forward*
*Bot hits wall*
*Bot turns*
*Repeat*

a HL2DM bot may be a long way off because of this, i wouldn't mind having the Counter-Strike bots as an example of creating a nav mesh, even something simplistic, that will get bots running around..

Looks like its waypoint city for developers again though :/

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Heyyo,

Botman.. busybots: source!?!?!? 8D

or is it plugins?? OOHH!! OOHH!! *faints* :P

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I've posted a request about the HL2 weapons for bots in hlcoders list, lets hope I get some useful info.

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Hi!

!Is a compiled plugin from this source available for download? I ask this because i don't know how i can compile this source on my linux box. :|

Thanks in advance for your reply!

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There is for windows but it is out of date, I also don't have a clue on how to compile it on linux :p My linux machine hasn't been up for a while so I can't try myself right now

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Ok, thanks for your reply and this info. :)

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So do we actually HAVE a bot for HL2DM that will play Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch? 8D

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no, because I haven't heard from any that have managed to get weapons to work yet.. and valve aren't exactly helping

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Officialy - it's true, but...Some our colleague from other board figured out the problem with weapons (he used some his-own method to get the info he needed ;) ) and he promised to publicity the info he has when he will release 1.0 version of his mod he is currently working on (right now it's at 0.7). Pierre was looking a bit at the result of his work, and can confirm it. :)

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Hi KWo,

thanks for this great news!!! Can you post the link to this thread in the other forum? Thanks again!

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No - I can't . This our colleague wants to do it by him-self, but in right time (he just told me that 1.0 version of his mod will be released during few weeks, so stay tuned ;) ).

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What KWo refers to with this "alternate method" is, strictly speaking, hacking into places in memory we shouldn't be allowed to. Although this may lead to a functional bot framework, it should not distract us from our objective of getting a real interface for bots by Valve.

Please, bump the HLcoders mailing list on this issue !

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That won't help. Valve is actually trying to LIMIT what can be done through plugins to prevent people from creating all kinds of crazy gameplay plugins that just confuse new customers (i.e. people who are just now buying Counter Strike: Source).

The more Valve opens up the plugin interface, the more confused customers contact Valve complaining about how they couldn't figure out why this one server that they connected to was doing all this crazy stuff.

botman

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lol, seems rather arrogant of valve to limit plugins because of this (not saying I don't believe you botman!) Valve == evil

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Thats a pretty stupid thing to do, maybe they could put up some kind of filter to leave out servers running those mods?
They have to face the fact that on its own Counter-Strike, ect are not that entertaining after a while.
Thats where server-side mods come in and change up the gameplay in interesting ways.
Look at TFC and the NeoTF server mod, wether you hated it or not it added a unique and fun gameplay change rather than "grab flag, cap, grab flag, cap".
If anything these server side mods are one of the reasons why they stay popular for so long.
As for anyone who says "just make your own mod"...
How many people want to play a mod with only a few changes to gameplay? Not only that the player/server count just won't be there.

But when has valve listened to its customers anyway?
As far as I know r_3dsky is still a cheat cvar despite it giving a large performance increase and causing no unfair advantages.

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Instead complaining about evil Valve (it directs You to nowhere), just wait patiently for publicing the info by our colleague from other board he took from Valve code. He even has the strucures of data, so it has everything (I think) You will need to code bots for CS:S (and probably for other mods, too).
Stay tuned. ;)

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...and at the next game DLL update, everything will break! Oh boy... I'm so tired :(

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Here You have guys the info I've got as a reply to this what Pierre wrote:



Because he is really busy since he is working on 3 forums as a main moderator-admin and on 3 projects, he is full time student and has a job - that's why he even can't write the reply him-self here for this moment.
We just need to wait... :)

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And we waiting...

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Sorry - I can't push him every day if we will wait long time yet or not. You can ask him Your-self. :P

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Yes...we just need that 8D

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The problem is - last time Bailopan is working as only one developer with 3 big projects - AMXMODX , CSS : DM and SourceMod. Other people left him alone (SniperBeamer, PM OnO to) - so for one man is too much work on 3 projects pararelly - that's why all things go slowely now. When I asked him last time about possibility to share result of his work , because some people at BU still are complaining (:P ), he told me so: "Find me someone to help or stop complaining". He needs realy good coders, because working on HL2 code without HL SDK is really difficult and because of this also the code of sourcemod and CSS : DM is much complicated (because based on disasembled HL2 code). So I can folllow him - "find someone to help him or stop complaining the sources of his work aren't released". :P
He doen't want to release his surces until they will be really good to release.He doen't want to release his surces until they will be really good to release.
If You know guys someone as a good coder wanting work on SourceMod and CSS : DM - please ask him if he wants work for these mods with Bailopan and report it me.

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I am still surprised by the low amount of Source bots...