Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

your the hero of the CSS community, steam are to lazy to release bots, eventhough there already there we just can touch them, why? they wont tell us =| anywho gl working on the bots!!!!

(this is my opinion,doesnt represt anyone else's)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Steam doesn't code the bots...Turtle Rock Studios is making the bots

http://www.turtlerockstudios.com/for...opic.php?t=579

And AFAIK they wanted to make the bot better before they release them.

The bots will come when they are ready...simple as that!

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Shhh! Don't tell him, anything to make Stefan look better than valve!;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

erm, thank you. Although botman did already more work then i could do... ;) thx for the support. :D

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

steam gets to much credit i think.. hail the great stefan hendriks.. with no X in the end..

im just a servent to his will..

who am i kidin.. all i want is him to code a GF to me.. intelligens is importent.. !!

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

GF and coding is a paradox :P ... but since you normally do not code ...

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

rofl, you are so damn right asp about that. Better be single my whole life, or quit coding right now :D

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

there are bots already in CSS, the illegal verison has a crack in it for the bots, my local netcafe has the cracked version and theres bots, i play with them all the time

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Heyyo,

They're the official CZ bots that turtlerock made, but since it's not officially released for CSSource yet, they're illegal for CSSource...

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

i don't think its illegal to have them, but its illegal to patch the dll to activate them. Let me explain, everybody has these bots , because they are integrated into the CSS dll. But when you activate them, its a different story. Its kinda vague in this area, but i think the EULA prescribes you cannot modify any binaries.

I'd say, wait for the official 'release' of the CSS bots. And just don't ask support about them as long as they are not officially released. ;) In the meantime have fun. (Or play HL2DM, which is imo much more cooler)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

actually you just can't patch the server.dll file if you are using Steam as Steam will just restore it when the game starts :)

HL2 is Valve's proprietary software. If you don't use it in Valve's desired way (i.e., make non-steam version, crack the cd check, patch to enable bots, etc), Valve will just call you as a "thief" or "pirate".

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Yeah...but just losers plays with them, and those nasty bots doesn't count :)

Better wait for the official bots :D

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

As You know it's illegal - did You read this?

http://www.bots-united.com/member-rules.php
I mean point (paragraph) 9.

Please - me more careful when You are posting something, because a lot of memebers here were warned/banned because of breaking exactly this point of rules. This time You probably didn't break yet the rules, but You were close to do it. When You showed this info - some people may start to search for some cracks for CSS. It's not good for our forum You posted this info here. :(

@Stefan... ;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Edit: Kwo posted that a moment before I posted mine, so I didn't see it. I'll pipe down now.

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

yes, i know that when you change the server dll in that way (cracking, etc) it is illegal. Though, lets give you this example:

you buy a game (so its legal, in that way)
you do something with it to add some functionality
you have your fun
nobody knows
nobody cares... ;)

I don't say its LEGAL to do so, but i say to this person, that if he wants to continue his actions i cannot persue him for this, we do not encourage it, but we cannot dissallow users to do with software as we want them to do. Ie, you can't possible check everybody's behaviour with their software.

So, in short:
- what he does is not legal
- we cannot do anything about it (its beyond our control)
- we do not encourage him to continue his illegal activities
- we gave him the info he needed

case closed ;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Server dll can be patched. AS i did (do!) with realbot with the liblist.gam in CS 1.6 (which gets overwritten as well, each time)... you simply make it read-only!

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Seems - we supported him a bit in something illegal then... ;)
I hope PMB will not read this. :D

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Heyyo,

Well, he's not entirely at fault, cause it's at the internet cafe he goes to. But since he decides to play with those illegal bots, he's not trying to avoid them...

I thought the only way that what he's doing would truly be immoral was if he ASKED where to get the illegal bot (either Zbot or the official CSbot for CSS). So far he hasn't done either, just give us thoughts.

All we did was support the thoughts he already had that the bot at that internet cafe's the illegaly modified server.dll CSbot, and why it is so. We diddn't do anythin immoral, if anything, we did him a small service. So don't worry dude, we ain't mad at you or anything, we just want you to know the truth is all. ;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

I hope you are not getting paranoid again ;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Well, once getting it - unfortunately - I'll probably will have it forever. :)
You are not the first one telling me so at this forum.

BTW - it was also a bit against the rules. ;)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

This forum will someday end in one big legal battle... I can sense it!

I agree with MarD btw... almost everybody mentioning that bot has written that it was illegal, and in that case I couldn't imagine talking about it would hurt.

But I'm looking forward to a 'real' bot for CS:S :)

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Kwo, you somehow make my words turn into 'legalizing' this whole situation.

No, we gave him the info he requested, and that was if there where bots for CSS (officialy, or better ones!)... as stated in post nr 1. We gave him the info (answer) and that did not encourage illegal activities.

Until you stop reading what you want to read, i suggest we stop this pointless discussion (again).

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

"Server dll can be patched. AS i did (do!) with realbot with the liblist.gam in CS 1.6 (which gets overwritten as well, each time)... you simply make it read-only!"

...but the HL2 doesn't have liblist.gam item to change the name of server dll.
also in both HL2 and Cs 1.6 you can't use a modified version of dlls\mp.dll or bin\server.dll unless you are using a non-steam version.

edit
the game dll case is different from liblist.gam. I just tried it in CS 1.6 Steam, and even if I set it to read-only it's still restored.
but I'm not sure if using NTFS feature in Windows NT Series will work

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Guys, not supporting illegal activities means not supporting them.

KWo is right to point it out, but he's mistaken about the problem.
Stefan is technically right, however he's dead wrong to post it here.
Such things CANNOT be said in public.

Please always care about the difference between what is public and what is not (especially council members).

If people want information about use or acquisition of illegal software, they gotta seek any damn where else, but not on Bots United. Roger?

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

Is exactly what I meant and what yestarday I've explained at priva to Aspirin (ICQ) and to Stefan (PM). Another thing is this what Whistler wrote:
I have to admit I've got confused by this, because if I change the liblist.gam to call bot.dll or to call metamod.dll I "don't use it in Valve's desired way". Is this all work here and this forum illegal then? ???:(
No. Whistler informed me - Valve had nothing against bots since botman asked them about it before starting work on HPB Bot and since "as doing bots doesn't prevent Valve from earning any $$$ (instead it does help to promote their software)".
So maybe enabling bots in CSS isn't illegal then? I guess we should ask Nova to clarify this. 9_9

Re: Stefan Hendriks your a champion
 

yes, i understand. The second thing Kwo said (as from Whistlers comment) actually made me ponder why we even exist ;)