de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Hey everyone!
I've been working on this remake of de_train for CS:Source.
I've posted the first beta version in the filebase, here:
http://filebase.bots-united.com/inde...on=file&id=241
check it out and let me know what you think!
Be aware this is a BETA and I have not yet added lights and phys_props! I also need to detail many of the textures still. Most of this will be done in beta 2!
Post here if you put it on a server, I'd like to play it with a few people, and there are no bots for source yet!
- DEAD

Re: de_train_b1 for CS:Source!
 

w00t bwoy w00t !!
what I love with this map is the sound of the bullets hitting the wagons around you. I'm eager to test it!

Re: de_train_b1 for CS:Source!
 

Hi, I have tried it (by myselfe) and I think its quite nice.
You are not trying to make an exact copy of de_train?

On my machine P4 1.8 MHz, Geeforce 3. I had some problems seeing the new.... hmmm, what is it called... the new things in the mainyard (the one with the ladder up to the snipernest on the roof) I could only see them when I was really close, so I was jumping from the roof without beeing able to see them :)
I havn't played too much cs:s 'couse of my grafic card. But I think you can jump to high without any effort. The big boxes are no problem to get up on.
Other than that, concidering that it's only beta1 i think its a nice map.
But why make a new map 'allmost' identical to the original? Why not make it as close to identical as possible?
I like it though, but I have no idea how it will play against others :(

Re: de_train_b1 for CS:Source!
 

New version, BETA 2 now available in the filebase!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20014.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ead_b20017.jpg
Same link as above, new version uploaded!
Check it out!!!
- DEAD

Re: de_train_b1 for CS:Source!
 

I've done a quick update of the lighting in the second bombsite.
My appologies to anyone who's already downloaded it!

Edit: Can a mod change the subject of this thread to "de_train_dead_b2 for CS:Source?"

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

nice work!

You should not put as much metallic bridges or whatever it is IMO, but put electric wires instead.
The rail end on the 7th pic needs a bumper
On the other hand, you can put as many metallic constructs under the roof as you want on the 4th pic.

Can the wagons be shortened to be placed exactly like in the original de_train ?

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Hi,
Don't know if it is on purpose but, the snipernest, the roof on the main yard, it is possible to jump over the airtunnel or whatever its called and then you can walk to the roof of the other building (hard to describe)... If the CT's camps there with 1 or 2 snipers it is very very hard to plant at the "outdoor" B-spot.
Hmm, I'll put 2 pictures in so you know what I meen =)
In the "de_train_dead_b1_1" you see wich roof I was babeling about.
The second picture shows a freefloating pillar... (You most sertainly know this one allready)

Verry nice indeed!

Oh, one more thing, in console it says something about a spawn not beeing correct??

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Thanks for all the input!
Here's a list of things to do for the 3rd beta version (pre-final):
- Work on Skybox.
- More props (static and phys).
- Add variation to some of the light fixtures.
- Tweek the traintracks.
- Brighten the whole map up a lil'.
- Remove the door, but keep the fence.
- Create texture displacements in some areas.
- More windows and such on all buildings.

I'd like some more comments about the sniper spot, and how you can jump over the vent and camp the b-site as a sniper... Should I take this out or leave it in?
Thank you all for your comments!!!

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

and maybe use some fancy reflection / metallic effect on some parts of that waggons

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@PMB:
I agree with the model issue, but have not yet looked into it yet myself. I'm hoping that yes, I can recompile those traincar models at a smaller scale! Has anyone messed around with Softimage | XSI EXP yet?

@ Sluggo on the sniper spot issue...
In defense, if a T can plant the bomb there, he can then get up there and camp and not be hurt. I think it'll really come down to a playtest! Not having any bots for source yet, I havn't been able to test it with other players yet. I think it may be tested out on a Gamers Coalition Public server today based here in Ohio, USA. I'll let you know here when it's on and I'll let you know how it went.
The layout and flow of the map is very important, as I've made a couple changes, and it's important to get this right before I add all the detail to the map.
Thanks,
- DEAD

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Hi, thx for leaving me a message. I had a quick look at your screenies. Train is really a masterpiece and all-time-classic of HL-mapping for CS. I would be very careful with a remake. In your screenies I see serious changes in the layout and gameplay. And also the lighting-it´s close to perfection (lighting-textures-different areas, important areas-not so important areas etc.) in the original. I know you try to add a certain athmosphere and that´s ok but be careful. de_train is a classic clanwar-map, so I would betatest it only with skilled clans...:). Good luck. You are really talented- I never seriously tried mapping 9_9.

-Some de_train-masterpiece-screenies :|:

http://people.freenet.de/3016/de_train1.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/3016/de_train2.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/3016/de_train3.jpg

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Just as I had expected, VALVe's releasing their own de_train for source...
It's official (released) tomorrow.

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

After seeing Turtle Rock's work on de_train, about all I can say is: WOW!

There's been some big changes to this map... Lets see how the community responds...

I may continue work on my, more true to the original, de_train_dead...

Comments?

- DEAD

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Just got finished playing a few rounds on the new de_train. I somehow get the feeling people aren't going to be too happy with it.

For one, the lighting has changed quite a bit. They've also added a few nooks and crannies here and there that you can hide in, potentially changing the flow of the gameplay on the map. There's also a bathroom by the Terrorist spawn, at the top of the stairs. o_O The list of changes goes on and on, but those were the first things I noticed. Besides those, minor things have changed mostly for aesthetics, I presume.

All in all, I wasn't too impressed. Am I the only one who thinks the CS: Source maps appear a bit...generic? I mean in CS, almost every map has its own *look* to it. The textures, the layout, the overall design. The CS: Source maps look to me like they got one guy, put a pistol to his head, and forced him to pull an all-nighter mapping official CS maps for Source.

I don't know, maybe I just like the originals too much. The new ones just look too phony to me.

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

they dont look phony at all..they are amazing works of art man........

they did add new camp spots all over the place so the gameplay WILL change.......

what WOULDmake them "generic" is the fact that they use the same models mostly as hl2 and a lot of the same building models in the 3dsky...which i think is lame...but the map looks more realistic than other ones

from a mapper-looking-only-with-the-eye standpoint its really GREAT

Re: de_train_b2 for CS:Source!
 

Yeah, almost all new maps at the moment: Warehouse+Industrial+Warehouse+Industrial+Warehous e+Industrial+Warehouse+Industrial+Warehouse+Indust rial+Warehouse+Industrial+Warehouse+Industrial+War ehouse+Industrial+Warehouse+Industrial+Warehouse+I ndustrial+Warehouse+Industrial+
Always the same textures and models especially for hl2dm -very boring at the moment. I wonder when the "Custommap-Stars" will start to make new stuff- I hope they work haaard to come up with some breathtaking-fantastic-new-never-seen-before-maps :D 8).

Oh...the good old days...