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The work here will be not useless if You can show to the people Your bot is better (or at least the same good) as offical CSBOT. About 1 month ago I've asked sPlOrYgOn to make tests POBOT-CSBOT on some maps of CZERO (because he almost lost all the motivation to wotk on podbot). I guess the results wasn't bad, but there is something to do and there are some possibility to improve podbot to be better than official CSBOT.
But look also at the world around - CZERO released, CS:Sources released (or almost - don't have the valid info) - but there are still a ot of servers with CS1.6 and they will be not closed yet for long time, I think, and for them the official CSBOT will not work (or I'm wrong?). In this case the Valve's political is good for You guys - because the poeple don't like to pay for new games so fast (need new codes for new games - need pay for them) - that's why CS1.6 will be alive for long time, I think and for it more of bots here can be useful.
I was also thinking about making some competition at BU - some server with HLTV to make some turnament between bots (like fotball championships - some games in groups and after some quartelfinals, semifinals and final). The competition always improve the product. But after speaking with some people - they told me - it could start after some hating discussions like - why this bot was a winner and this one a loser or something - so I've decided to don't start the topic about this - since You are united - maybe competition could not be good for this "united".

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and me.. 9_9

good idea.. hope they go for it..

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well , theres only one to say :

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If you want to compare bots, you better do that on a LOT of fields. Because a simple win/lose ratio will not do. Most people do not want to go through the hassle of installing new 3rd party bots, even if they are better... and with broadband connections getting more affordable...

anyway, most authors code for themselves, ie, they like coding. I think thats practicly the most biggest reason for most authors here.

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I'd say just make your bot universal and have .xml files describing how weapons work in each mod, but that's just me.

Then you could always add C-script like AMX has.

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Maybe I didn't write this clear, but I focused at this what You wrote:

And to this was my reply-opinion.

I was thinking about this competition also because a lot of people still are asking us at BU which bot they should take and which one is the best. And for this moment nobody knows what we can answer them.
And yes - the people are simply too lazy to install some better program, if they have already some another one on the install CD for some game they buy. This is a problem - probably need write some universal smart installer for every bot. Smart - I mean - some installer ont overwritting some files (like plugins.ini in metamod directory), but reading them and eventually adding something to them (if needs do this). Then - maybe if it will be not too big effort install a bot from BU - the people will use them more often.


You propably are right, but if You will know - nobody will want to use Your program (because the poeple will use some other program) - will You be motivated to code and improve Your program and still develope it?

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You still think in terms of HL/HL2 exclusively... my opinion is that our future is to be open to more games. I can't see it otherwise, actually. This changes the problem quite a bit, doesn't it ?

but anything that can draw interest is welcome. Your letter is fine, if you except the typos ;)

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stefan,

could you also in a "ps:" tell em that podbot MM is a majorly upgraded version of podbot.

it might help all those podbot user's still playing 1.5 n pb2.5 :)


it would be apprecitated

/explain it better than this though.

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lol @ pmb, yes the BU view is not on HL only, though that is what's most presented here. And... as a matter of fact, most of these bots have made HL's future like it is today imo.

I'd wait for a reaction, if i don't get one, i will not pursue this issue and let them.

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The bots you guys make are as good (even better) than the official bot. You support a lot of mods between you, official bot is cs only (not everyone plays cs, or only plays cs) Without you lot those of us playong DOD, TFC, FLF and half a dozen other mods would be lost. Sad but true is that cs dominates the hl mod world so even if you find a server with the other mods it's mostly empty, but thanks to you guys we can all play these mods whenever we want to because of your great bots. Keep on making them and keep on improving them because we all appreciate it.

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sad but true too that nobody replied to the mail even. Even a small mail 'no' would atleast give a sign... but *sigh* i think thats even too much asked.

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let's work even harder on bots, then :)

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Hell yes!

When I first found this forum, I was looking for PODBot 2.6 in google. When I entered the site, I went straight for PODBot mm, because I thought that any others wouldn't be based on the original PB... :D:|

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I think we should make a kick-ass HL2 botframe very soon! :) perhaps we can use the HPB Bot template as basis, as the HL2SDK seems to be similiar to the HL1SDK (well, as far as Valve said it would... :))

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3rd party bots will always sit in the background over official bots, and always will, but, third party bots will generally ALWAYS be better than official ones, its just promoting that fact.. The CSNation thing is a good idea, let the world know we exist, get publicity, remind the world that 3rd party bots still exist, and will always be here :D

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perhaps we can have our insider at csnation some day hehe.

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insider? :|
*whistles*

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well.. someone of us have to get under cover and work for csnation :D then give us some popularity! :D

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haha right..

As of now, my name is Jessica, i'm 18, blond hair, deep green eyes, and perfect body..

should make getting 'under the covers' easier..

oh wait! you said 'under cover' oops ;D

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I think that a new idea would probably be a good idea to try out. Like for CS, this isnt really new and req a lot of time. Why not make the bots use simple tactics?

I know it would be really popular having bots that can pull off simple CS tactics, helping clans praticing without having to spend hours trying to find a PCW ;P

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I think the solution is to stop making bots for games which have official bots.

You bot authors deserve more attention than being just one of many CS bots.

Why not make bots for mods which dont have any kind of bots yet? CS got plenty of players online, they dont need bots. Many more unknown mods dont have players online that often and really needs some bots.

Yes this post is a hint to make a Sands-of-War bot, but I believe in this for other mods too.

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But then again, I would never make a bot for a mod I dont play my self. But that is ofc me ;P

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Heyyo,

Dudes, yeah, CS now has an official bot, but that's no reason why we shouldn't be discouraged to make a bot for that mod. Us humans, we love our varieties in anything we want to own, or already own. It's like cars, we love our different companies, the different lines of vehicles, the different types, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life man. ;)