EPB Current Progress..
 

Heyyo,

Well, THE_STORM's been working pretty hard on EPB, and has already done some cleaning up. The latest test works pretty good! just a couple small bugs need fixing and then the bot's ready for release. the main one we need to focus on is the bot ignoring the min/max skill settings and setting itself straight at skill level 200. :P

Another small bug we're working on is the CS 1.6 menus, they're currently coming up as #Menu_1#Menu_2

After that? You folks can enjoy E[POD]bot on CS 1.6 with ease.

Also planned is to make E[POD]bot a metamod plugin, and maybe a metamod plugin option like YAPB. I also just e-mailed Will Day to see if we can keep E[POD]bot close source cause it's LN's main wish for the bot since he says it's a very messy setup, and doesn't want others to follow his example. :P

Other plans for the bot include changing the waypoint system to the one created by SF and Austin which's implemented in POXbot, and PODbot mm (*coughs* sPlOrYgOn *coughs* lol.. ;)) cause I find it much easier to waypoint, and with TWrecks, SF, and Biohazard pumping out those awesome waypointpacks, who wouldn't wanna peice of that eh? :D

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Well thats cool ;)

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technically if you link against the metamod SDK you cannot, but in practice many people do that. You can keep your metamod plugin closed source, nobody but integrists like Whistler will bother you. Just nag them :P :D

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Heyyo,

Heh, well, Will Day suggested to just make E[POD]bot an open source bot so maybe others could come in n' do bugfixes every once inna while, so tha'd be cool. Cause I do remember reading an old RACCbot thread where some dude helped you out with your navigation stuff there PMB, so yeah, maybe open source would be a good thing, even with sloppy coding. So now THE_STORM is trying to consolidate with LN to see if he will allow us to release the sourcecode of E[POD]bot so we can into EPB a metamod.

I'm sure that since THE_STORM is taking actual classes they'll teach him how to become a clean and efficient coder, so maybe by the time we get to open source n' metamod it should be clean enough for LN to approve. ;)

So if all goes well with LN, then Whistler, you won't have to pull out your biblical licence agreement of the GPL. :P

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Awww... :o I feel honoured.

But seriously: That's definitely some good news! You do realize, however, that by upgrading to the new WP system, you will give up 100% compatibility to the old PB 2.5 WP format due to the changed camp WPs, eh?

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Heyyo,

True, but so far I havn't seen bots camp too much, especially on E[POD]bot. The attacking teams on any gamemode isin't alloud to camp. So CT on Hostage Rescue maps, Terrorists on Bombing maps, CT's on Escort maps... you get the idea. ;)

Well, what I was thinking for camping waypoints, is insead of those 2 values, that the bots just looked at random waypoints, so as long as the level has good waypoints, the bots should look all over the place. Then we wouldn't have to worry aboot camping incompatiblities. For now this is just a concept idea, so it may get implemented, it might not... only time will tell I guess. :)

BTW, the new version of E[POD]bot is out! go get it n' give er' a go! It's at my website for now (http://www.freewebs.com/mard_lltd/) but I'll try to get it on the filebase if I can... Also, I'll try to contact LN, n' see if he can give me access to his site so I can update there... (wonder how much per month he's paying to keep that site up?....)

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Heyyo,

New progress reports! w00t! gotta love progress :)

We got full shield compatiblity thanks to help from PMB, and also, the bots now pickup better pistols. :)

We're also seeing if we can land some webspace here on bots-united cause our freewebs ones are like, limited, and our built-in templates suck cause like, everyone else uses them too. :P

I was trying to make my own template using M$ Frontpage 2003 (w00t? lol) but that fell over when I remembered I have no artistic skills. :D

So? If we can't get some webspace on BU, np, I'm just gonna spam LN's inbox ti'll he eventually gives me access to the site, or blocks me. :P So here goes... I feel all giddy (I know, old and crappy word, but I feel retarded right now so gimmie a break :D) cause now I feel more important towards the bot cause I'm doing more than just waypointing. I'm like, the middle man, yeah, he's always the cool one... lol. Jesus, I really need a coffe break from school..... :)

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MarD don't forget that now I must fix one more bug -- the bots don't move 15 sec after they finish with buying.
I know what is the reason so the fix will be soon.
Now I have to much lessons for learning and I have no free time.
So I will fix this problem in Sunday(I think ;) )

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Heyyo,

Ok, I beta-tested E[POD]bot again and it was great to see the bots pickup better pistols, but sometimes they would drop their primary weapon instead of the pistol, and just stand over the weapon forever. :P

Here's 2 other parts that THE_STORM e-mailed me:
+Added Metamod support (The bots are not a metamod plugin but if we have metamod instaled the bots load metamod.dll file so metamod is now plugin for the bots :P)
+Fixed all crash bugs (The bots don't crash when load a .pxp files)

so yes, no more needing to manually delete the pxp files, w00t! :D

And that's nice eh? how it still loads metamod if it's installed, so we might not have to release the source code, but if one of you forum council members agree that we must then just gimmie me or THE_STORM a shout n' we'll see what we can do. ;)

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Is the updated bot available for download ???:( 8D
One more thing, when will E[POD]Bot be a metamod plugin ???:( 8D

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Heyyo,

Well, the latest release is available at my website, the current work that I just posted hasn't been released yet as it still needs some beta-testing. My site's:

http://www.freewebs.com/mard_lltd/

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Thanks for the info :)

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MarD you forgot to add and my site:D

http://www.freewebs.com/thestorm_nik/

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Heyyo,

DOH! Guess I forgot it... :P

LMAO! YEAAAH! I can see the little CTFB smilie on the right! w00t! :D

Ok, since I'm trying to keep this thread on track, I'm gonna do sommore updating:

I've been looking at that Nullsoft NSIS, and it looks great. I'm definately gonna use it for an E[POD]bot installer, and maybe some basic scripting so it can do it all automatically, cause tha'd be cool. :) I'm thinkin' of it people either manually putting in their folders, or the installer search for any CStrike folder, and the user chooses where to install it. Hopefully I can script that in just basic dos cause I could handle that, if it's in C or C++? I may need some assistance. :P

I'm still also waiting on any response on if someone can kindly contribute one of those cool techno-midi sound files to put in the installer, cause those just pwn. :D

Also, if possible I'm gonna try to throw in some pictures of CS in there. Also, I have no idea what licence E[POD]bot is released under, or if it even has a licence... if anyone knows just tell me so I can throw that in the installer too.

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Well I don't know anythink about the licence.I use too Nullsoft NSIS instalator and is great.But I like more PODbot 2.5 installer.
If someone know what's the name of this installer post it here

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I believe pb2.5 uses the WISE installer

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the WISE installer is also non-free, and (what's worse) it's also a shareware :D
if you don't like NSIS, you can also search for the Inno Setup :)

and I think there IS a license, just look at the EPB readme file; it just doesn't allow any modification to the package. It also doesn't allow commercial redistribution, and others also needs to ask for permission if he/she wants to include it in a magazine CD (well, I think LN copied these terms from the original PB 2.5)

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From where I can download this WISE installer.Maybe he have a evalation copy :)

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Heyyo,

I say we just go with NSIS cause it's freeware, and it's pretty much the same dude, just a different layout. If you wanna use that WISE one, then aright, but I bet since it's shareware it'll have some stupid popup saying it's shareware... and I bet they're gonna charge like, $20 for registration......

....


OH SWEET BEJEBUS MAN!!! $449.00!!!! 8o

this is just an installer! whooaaaaa!! that's even more than buying Nero Software Bundle! They've gotta be outta their mind....

Haha, so ok, THE_STORM, if you wanna use the WISE installer without annoying shareware messages, you can pay the $449.00, cause I sure the heck ain't. :P

[EDIT]
http://www.wise.com/products.asp

there's your link, you can try it out, but I bet since it's shareware there's gonna be some lame limitations, probably filesize too...

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Huh this people are crazy.

Well I will use NSIS.

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"I say we just go with NSIS cause it's freeware..."
you have said "freeware" again when you are actually mentioning "free software" :D
and if you hate the GNU project and the FSF like PMB you can say "open source software", but in either way software like that is not "freeware". Free software doesn't have to be in zero price (just like thost GNU/Linux distros), and they don't forbid commercial exploitation like freeware :D
(If you don't understand... the "free" in "free software" means "libre" in french.)

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Heyyo,

Aright! summore progress updates! :D

For installers, we're probably gonna go with NSIS cause it's free software (heh, I always get mixed between that and freeware, but I think I got it nailed down now that whistler's been trying to cram it into my skull :P). BUT, I'm still waiting for someone to create me a cool midi music file so I can throw that into the installer, cause tha'd be kickass. ;)

For the bots? they now properly pickup any new pistols, but seem to not care what weapon they drop to get it. I've seen bots drop an m4a1 and his pistol just to get the deagle I dropped... needless to say, I stole his m4a1. :)

I also pointed out 1 big bug left over from the PB 2.6 source code, and a possible 2nd bug.

The 1st one is how bots stare at 1 point forever, and only change where he's looking only if he jumps, or by luck.

The 2nd one is I think the hearing code's messed up again cause 1 bot was shooting his deagle like crazy at another bot, and eventually the other bot turned to shoot him down. :P

[EDIT]
Oh, and I fixed up a few connection problems with my DE_Dust2 waypoints, and they will be in the next release. ;)

And I just remembered another bug I saw that I forgot to report: EPB and PODBot mm "merging" together bug. YES, I'm not kidding, they did. Ya know how EPB now loads metamod? well my metamod loads PODbot mm, and no joke, but the bots merged! like, the waypoints where PODbot mm, the movement was PODbot mm, but the names were the EPB ones, and the waypoint menu was also the EPB one! crazy eh? I'm gonna mail THE_STORM and tell him this asap.

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Heyyo,

*BUMB* ;)

Ok, found another annoying bug: the bots don't get all booted, or can only boot some bots once! :(

Yes, very ghey, I know, but good thing I caught this bug. I could successfully boot half the bots with the "remove all bots" command in the botmenu, but then the "kick a random bot" or "remove all bots" wouldn't work...

So next release these should be fixed too. ;)

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For me there is no any bug with kicking the bots.
To kick all bots correctly you must wait all bots to connect to server and after that you can kick it all.

For the other bug with playing EPB and PODbotmm togeder -
You can't run correctly this bots becorse they are started from same source code.All command of the bots are same so that is the reason.

Any other bugs:P

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Heyyo,

But yeah, the server was full (14) and then I used the "remove all bots" command, and only half got kicked, and then I couldn't remove all bots, or even 1.... it's a bug dude cause before they'd work perfectly... this was on CS 1.5, I'll try with 1.6 later...

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Well I will try to fix it. ;)

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Sometimes the remove bot bug happned to me when i was using the bot (vIII) with 1.5. Actually it happneed most of the time. It annoyed me because i had to restart the server, i remember the frustration...

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Heyyo,

Found another bug, sometimes bots shoot at dead corpses... long after they're dead, and they don't care for ammo counts either, they'll blast it until they're out of ammo.. so I'm reporting this to THE_STORM right now. ;)

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MarD please post the bugs in your new thread that is special for bugs.
The forum will be more clean :) if you do that.

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Heyyo,

Err... what thread? the reporting bug stickies one is closed, should I open it and make that our reporting bugs thread?

Yeah, we should try to keep this thread as more of a fix/progress journal for EPB.

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Heyyo,

More updates straight from the horses mouth... err, pandas.... lol, gotta love that old skool tv show south park. ;)

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And one more new.:)
I now fix pickup weapons bug and the new version will be released after I fix one more bug - the bots don't buy armor and granedes. Maybe this is from the new buy code. But take it easy this will be fixed very soon.:)

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Glad to see you're starting to find your way around the code better and better :)

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Thanks :).

And now some more news :
+FIXED Buy stuff in E[POD]bot (The bots now buy granedes and armor).
+ADDED Smarter granede usage (Some parts of the code are taked from PODbotmm forum).

Now I waiting for MarD to make a beta test and make a new E-mail addres with no protection becose on his "hot mail" I can't send to him E[POD]bot .exe pack.

But for now hi will not be at home for the weekend so you guys must wait some time ;).

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Heyyo,

Ok, I re-added my waypoints since THE_STORM accidentally put in old skool PB 2.5 waypoints that were good, but needed some improvement, so we switched back to my waypoints. I also re-waypointed (I swear I've done this map before...) de_airstrip, so the bots should have all the default maps of CS 1.6. I also added some CS 1.5 waypoints for older versions of some maps (I think de_aztec and de_inferno only??? tell me if I'm wrong...)

We also added these 2 new fixes:

+When auto-add bots is on, and you kick one or all bots auto-add bots turns off
+Bots not dropping Shield to get new weapon bug

THE_STORM thinks it's ready for release, so I'm gonna trust him on this and upload this newer version to the BU Filebase. :)

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First of all: I did not read the whole thread, yet, but the first page of it. And I visited "the new E[POD]bot website".

Surely TheStorm does very good work, but WTF! I just wanted to stay in E-Mail contact with him. He never answered any of mails, I even always got an error message, that his adress were unreachable. Here in the forums was no evidence of the new E[POD]bot project, so I thought TheStorm lost interest in coding EPB. So I waited a few months, not updating the website and not looking into this forum. Perhaps I should have done it. Late I thought about making EPB IIIa open source to download on the EPB website (the original one!).
In a way I did not know TheStorm already had the SourceCode, because the (fake?) error message claimed, the E-Mail hasn't reached him!! one day I got a mail from TheStorm, asking a question about the source code. My mail software accidently put it into spam, so I read it very late. I tried to answer and asked, where he did get the source code and telled, that his email adress was unreachable for me. This also led to an error message from mail.bg and he did not even answer to the mail

Today I got a mail which was a bug report of version 4a of EPB. First I thought, it has to be a typing mistake, but then I visited this forums and saw this things and the new website of E[POD]bot.


If TheStorm reads this, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!
I will update the old website after talking about the new version/s of EPB and future plans! If possible we can move this to the bots-united subdomain. From the beginning I talked about my wish of being the webmaster of the project and that no things do happen behind my back.
The current situation is VERY ANNOYING!!! Sorry for my bad english, but I am emotional arroused and I'm not aNative speaker.

If TheStorm is not willing to contact me and talk over EPB with me once and for future versions, this would be a type of Betray in my eyes. I will not forbid him to continue the work, and I will not run to a lawyer to solve this issue. But in this case, I do not want the project to be named E[POD]bot anymore! Because I did invent the name and I did all the work of the first versions, so I do not want to be associated with this anymore. Surely I want to see my Nickname in the Credits and also that it is based on E[POD]bot. But I hope this will not happen and TheStorm just will work together with me!


So, now I will read the rest of this thread.

LightNinja

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about faked nonreachable - replies : just read on telepolis.de that there are some american providers deleting mails and creating false error reports if a mail came from russia, germany, france or Great Britain ... dunno where the STORM comes from ...

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I did not read the thread either, but wasnt EPodBot not nominated for the 'suddent silence and therefor should be put on non-active bots, just before THE_STORM came in to save it' ?

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Heyyo,

Hey LN, I know, that spam mail filter is ghey. On hotmail it was sending your mails to me into my junkmail box, if I diddn't check my junkmail folder, 2 days later it would've deleted the EPB source code! :(

Needless to say, my junkmail filter is set to low now and I check my junkmail folders every week just incase...

Same prob is probably happening to THE_STORM. I know he's not in North America, and over in the middle east or somewhere around there, so I'm not sure how his mail's setup.

He's told me he's tried to contact you, but has failed many times just like me. I used to try n' mail you to try n' get some responses on how the bot updating was going. As you can see by this thread (http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=1779) I wasn't getting much luck for responses from you.

I think the storm needs to add you to his 'safe list' or whatever the setting is for his e-mail account cause I had to do that for you LN, and you probably need to do it for the storm's email, it's tedious yes, but it's a must.

So hopefully this gets sorted out, he never meant to leave you out, this's just a big mess of miscommunication due to spam mail filtering....

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Glad to see you LightNinja :).
And there is some mistakes.
I'm not receve any mail from you.
Maybe this is some E-mail protection. I don't know.
I will work with you LightNinja and the name of E[POD]bot will not be changed.
Please tell me on PM what we will do because my E-mail is "broke".
And one more think in my E-mail addres I don't have bulk folder so some meseges that my mail thinks that is spams will be deleted and I can't see them.
I very sorry.
I hope you will forgive me :).

I'm from Bulgaria and somethimes when I send mails to MarD I too reseve I error mesege but after I resend my mail to MarD then he reseve it. But this is happen only somethimes.