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HangFire 03-08-2004 07:07

Doom 3 first impressions
 
Since its out in a few places and going to be out everywhere immenently, I'd like to hear what people have to say about it after they try it.


And no, I didn't pirate my copy. I pre-ordered my copy months ago, so ID has had my money for a long time now.


In my opinion, it definently lives up to all the hype. Graphics are excellent, its frightening and tense, and above all the gameplay is top notch. I only have a few complaints, such as the fact that ID dropped the coop multiplayer for some damn reason. Well actually thats my only complaint. This game isn't perfection, but it comes close.

I really like how they add in things reminiscent of the original Doom. Theres various references to it and I've heard sound effects from the original in Doom 3.



Also, its amazing how many people already have this game and its not even supposed to out yet. This proves what I mean, but its a potential spoiler ahead.




This here site


This is the site of "Martian Buddy", a fictional company in the game. Sort of like the ones in Max Payne 2. Its part of a secret in the game, going to the website gives you the code for a locker. Anyway, look at the "unique visitors" at the bottom of the page. Over 27,000 last I checked. And thats the people who found this secret. Theres probably at least 50,000 people by my guess who have Doom 3.

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 03-08-2004 07:54

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
i have also preordered it and will have it tommorow morning.

biohazerd87 03-08-2004 13:45

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I already have it and it is sooooooo sweet fellers i hope you have a good system 2!!! ID (maker of the game) says to play the game at ultra high graphics you need a 512meg graphics card which are scarce mainly cause they are work stations hahaha

stefanhendriks 03-08-2004 14:09

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biohazerd87
I already have it and it is sooooooo sweet fellers i hope you have a good system 2!!! ID (maker of the game) says to play the game at ultra high graphics you need a 512meg graphics card which are scarce mainly cause they are work stations hahaha

by the time i buy my computer, i bet the hardware to run doom 3 will be uber cheap :D

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 03-08-2004 17:37

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
i built my system for 1100 bucks american

HangFire 03-08-2004 17:38

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I play it at 800x600 and it looks spectacular. Raising the resolution to 1024x768 made very little difference to graphics quality and a huge difference in my frame rate.

The game's auto-detect even wanted me to run the game on 640x480. Thats a bit too low for me.

Pierre-Marie Baty 03-08-2004 18:02

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
oy, 512MB video ram.. that's just as much as my DDR o_O

TruB 03-08-2004 20:26

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
i got 128.. it better be enough.. i dont really care about the game.. but its something to do until DA game comes.. hl2..

stefanhendriks 03-08-2004 21:43

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and thats why HL2 will rock with its scalable engine and such. People who play HL1 and CS 1.6, do not care if the engine looks 'less good' then 'super hl2 gfx', as they are already used to the cs 1.6 gfx. I bet they will see improvements anyhow, its more like: "You get eye candy, but it depends on your system how much it is". Therefor anyone has a benefit , PLUS you do not have to upgrade your computer.

Ah, but we did not mention STEAM yet heh ;)

biohazerd87 03-08-2004 21:46

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Doom 3 = Better Graphics x 10

Half-Life 2 = Better Physics
Better AI

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 04-08-2004 07:05

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruB
i got 128.. it better be enough.. i dont really care about the game.. but its something to do until DA game comes.. hl2..

thats plenty.

TruB 04-08-2004 12:37

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
its not hardcore.. ID seems to want you to have that..
its not latest either.. radeon9600

but about what you said BioHazard..

ive read alot of discussions about which got bets GFX.. doom or hl2.. they talk about how many object rendered at that same time in a scene.. hl2 with massive areas.. and many characters.. alos the nice face expressions..

doom.. it looks really good.. more polys.. on each thing.. smaller areas.. indoor?.. lesser charachters..

then what is what can be discussed over and over again..

some say you cant compare the grafik.. since they got diffrent goals of there engine..

but in the end.. the gfx do little.. its not about that.. yes you wanne see nice views.. but when you really enjoy the game.. what do you look at.. you dont look really.. you are in middle of fight.. or just finished a puzzle..

alittle like stefan talked about.. the cs players.. who played cs.. no good gfx to talk about.. they dont really care about it.. why do most of the look forward to cs s?.. its not only the gfx i can tell you that..

cruft 04-08-2004 17:29

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Here's an interesting article on what hardware will run the game:
http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQ0

According to the article, and according to id software, "If you have a 1.5GHz Pentium and a 3D card that has been made in the last couple of years, you should be able to enjoy the DOOM 3 experience as it was meant to be."

Looks like all you need is a 1.5GHz processor, 384MB system memory, 2GB of hard space, and a geforce3 or better. Of course, you won't see the game in it's full glory with this config but at least you don't have to worry about having to upgrade your machine just to play doom3.

TruB 04-08-2004 18:05

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
got P1.6
256 ram
radeon9600 128mb

i lack ram..

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 04-08-2004 20:17

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruB
its not hardcore.. ID seems to want you to have that..
its not latest either.. radeon9600

but about what you said BioHazard..

ive read alot of discussions about which got bets GFX.. doom or hl2.. they talk about how many object rendered at that same time in a scene.. hl2 with massive areas.. and many characters.. alos the nice face expressions..

doom.. it looks really good.. more polys.. on each thing.. smaller areas.. indoor?.. lesser charachters..

then what is what can be discussed over and over again..

some say you cant compare the grafik.. since they got diffrent goals of there engine..

but in the end.. the gfx do little.. its not about that.. yes you wanne see nice views.. but when you really enjoy the game.. what do you look at.. you dont look really.. you are in middle of fight.. or just finished a puzzle..

alittle like stefan talked about.. the cs players.. who played cs.. no good gfx to talk about.. they dont really care about it.. why do most of the look forward to cs s?.. its not only the gfx i can tell you that..

You dont need the latest cards to run the games i am running it on a GeForceFX 5700 lol and it runs perfect though myne is 256..

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 04-08-2004 20:18

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruB
got P1.6
256 ram
radeon9600 128mb

i lack ram..

I originally was gonna run it with my old dell dimesion 4300 with a radeon 9000 pro 64 with 256 ram and a 1.6 p4 proccy

HangFire 04-08-2004 20:58

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You don't need that good of a system to run Doom 3. My last PC was about 3.5 years old and some-what crippled but it still ran the game reasonably.


And ATI just released new beta drivers for their cards, and I've heard that they do in fact help performance in Doom 3.

Pierre-Marie Baty 04-08-2004 21:39

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
geforce 3 or above ???

butbutbutbutbut... I was told that my geforce 4 MX is in fact a geforce 2 core, so that would mean I might not be able to play doom 3 ? :|

does anybody know if this game runs on a gf4mx ?

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 04-08-2004 22:22

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty
geforce 3 or above ???

butbutbutbutbut... I was told that my geforce 4 MX is in fact a geforce 2 core, so that would mean I might not be able to play doom 3 ? :|

does anybody know if this game runs on a gf4mx ?

the geforce 2 core is the best nvidia core me thinks if your gonna buy an nvidia either get a 5700 or higher.

Exilibur 04-08-2004 22:23

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
I'd prefer Elasto Mania at any time...

But to stay on topic, i think graphics are far overrated... of curse it's cool, but i don't really need a really cool-looking oildrum if it just stays there, frozen to the ground (exaggerated, i know)... No need to say I'm looking more forward to hl2 ;)

But anyway, my point is that there seem to have been a very narrow focus on the graphics up through the development of computergames. I mean, it's not like i dislike cool graphics, but i just think playability, physics, intelligence, and depth are things so much more important to a computergame...

but then, it probably would be boring to play counter-strike in 2d... but if they'd spend the time on ai instead, I'm sure the bots would have been awesome :D

biohazerd87 05-08-2004 01:12

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruB
its not hardcore.. ID seems to want you to have that..
its not latest either.. radeon9600

but about what you said BioHazard..

ive read alot of discussions about which got bets GFX.. doom or hl2.. they talk about how many object rendered at that same time in a scene.. hl2 with massive areas.. and many characters.. alos the nice face expressions..

doom.. it looks really good.. more polys.. on each thing.. smaller areas.. indoor?.. lesser charachters..

then what is what can be discussed over and over again..

some say you cant compare the grafik.. since they got diffrent goals of there engine..

but in the end.. the gfx do little.. its not about that.. yes you wanne see nice views.. but when you really enjoy the game.. what do you look at.. you dont look really.. you are in middle of fight.. or just finished a puzzle..

alittle like stefan talked about.. the cs players.. who played cs.. no good gfx to talk about.. they dont really care about it.. why do most of the look forward to cs s?.. its not only the gfx i can tell you that..

I relize and totally understand what you are saying ( A LOT IS 2 WORDS) but some people want the game for both perpouses.(which i can't spell) But the point of the game isn't just for playing, it is a milestone for graphics(which i can spell correctly) and lighting. Never has this much detail been placed into a game. That said about Doom 3 I have the leaked HL2 and although not complete the engen (which i can't spell) and physics are so amazing. And it was leaked over 2 years ago. I mean the interaction with objects in the game is so amazing you would think your actaully in the game moving things it's just crazy. I have doom 3 and here it the minimum system reqiurements

************************************************** ********
Minimum System Requirements:
· English version of Microsoft® Windows® 2000/XP
· Pentium® 4 1.5 GHz or Athlon(tm) XP 1500+ processor
· 384MB RAM
· 8x Speed CD-ROM drive (1200KB/sec sustained transfer rate) and latest drivers
· 2.2GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 400MB for Windows® swap file)
· 100% DirectX® 9.0b compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
· 100% Windows® 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers
· DirectX® 9.0b (included)
· 3D hardware Accelerator Card Required - 100% DirectX® 9.0b compatible 64MB Hardware Accelerated video card and the latest drivers.
o ATI® Radeon 8500
o ATI® Radeon 9000
o ATI® Radeon 9200
o ATI® Radeon 9500
o ATI® Radeon 9600
o ATI® Radeon 9700
o ATI® Radeon 9800
o All Nvidia® GeForce 3/Ti series
o All Nvidia® GeForce 4MX series
o All Nvidia® GeForce 4/Ti series
o All Nvidia® GeForce FX series
o Nvidia® GeForce 6800 series
Multiplayer Requirements:
· Internet (TCP/IP) and LAN (TCP/IP) play supported
· Internet play requires broadband connection and latest drivers
· LAN play requires network interface card and latest drivers

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 05-08-2004 03:20

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
the fx series isnt good for nvidia unless u use the 5700 or older under 5700 sucks.

Pierre-Marie Baty 05-08-2004 03:33

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biohazerd
perpouses.(which i can't spell)

indeed :D

TruB 06-08-2004 10:23

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
it lagged a lot on my comp.-..
i must say.. it felt alot like hl1.. comes to work.. a secret location where they do all kind of research. something goes wrong.. your "buddies" transforms to evil (headcrabs in hl).
you the last hope..

the story line is really good.. i played it.. bc of lagg.. i died.. realized i didnt save.. and im not sure im gone play it again..

Pierre-Marie Baty 06-08-2004 13:29

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
how's the music ?

the music was responsible for a lot of the atmosphere in the DOOM 1 and 2 (and IMO that was around the BEST tunes ever made for a computer game :D)

does the new one match up with the expectations too ? :)

TruB 06-08-2004 14:41

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i had no expectiations..

the music?.. i almost never hear that.. hear one..
the sound.. i use headphones.. this is the first game i have real problem know where the sounds come from.. since i rely on it, its desturbing..

and the gun sounds.. whats up with them.. i mean.. the machinegun.. sounds like a gun you use to put up thin wood,, do the same amount of damage too it seem..

the most cool thing about it is that you can use computers.. you can look in menus and shut down things or open doors.. i like that.. one bug though.. if you shut down a comp.. some you can.. those where you save a backup file before shutting down.. easily missed.. however.. it seems like you still can operate it after it shut down..

why does it feel like i get stuck on things when i need to move..

physic engine.. heard they did it them self.. what i also heard is that it was good.. one of the better.. i can say is bette then battlefields.. but it still sucks.. i find little realism in it..

i dont like those 3rd person views when it want give some sekvense.. and the guy moves to a position i wouldnt go..

still some good stuff.. some well dont animations before something new is up.. like the large dog vs rhno thing comes.. i almost shit my pants when it came through the window.. me and my pelllet gun took it out.. after a while.. the cabinets is pretty fun.. i bet there is cheats up already.. every cabinet got a numbers.. and a pass.. so that would be easy

came pretty far.. but since awhile back.. i got bored.. the same darkness all the way.. some noise in the back.. i enter a room.. sometimes i there some things there already.. else some things will come.. the only quistions is from where..

HangFire 06-08-2004 16:23

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
The music isn't like the original, it doesn't play constantly. It only plays during certain dramatic situations; ie when Mancubuses start crashing into the room. Its allright music, but not as good as the original's midis. Not as memorable anyway.



To get the code for the lockers you have to pick up PDAs and read the emails in them and listen to the audio logs. I fail to see why anyone would want to cheat in this game, its not that difficult. I'm only the 'medium' skill level and my health has hardly gone below 50.

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 06-08-2004 18:52

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HangFire
The music isn't like the original, it doesn't play constantly. It only plays during certain dramatic situations; ie when Mancubuses start crashing into the room. Its allright music, but not as good as the original's midis. Not as memorable anyway.



To get the code for the lockers you have to pick up PDAs and read the emails in them and listen to the audio logs. I fail to see why anyone would want to cheat in this game, its not that difficult. I'm only the 'medium' skill level and my health has hardly gone below 50.

play it on nigtmare!

biohazerd87 06-08-2004 19:55

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TruB
it lagged a lot on my comp.-..
i must say.. it felt alot like hl1.. comes to work.. a secret location where they do all kind of research. something goes wrong.. your "buddies" transforms to evil (headcrabs in hl).
you the last hope..

the story line is really good.. i played it.. bc of lagg.. i died.. realized i didnt save.. and im not sure im gone play it again..

For the love of god, a lot is 2 words

TruB 06-08-2004 22:23

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hey!!..only one mistake.. well some cheat anyway.,,.. did it once.. probably do it again.. im not talking about me..

my health is almost at top.. all the time.. i play medium.. thought about going for veteran.. but then i would get mad thinking it was too darn hard so it would suck bc of that..

HangFire 07-08-2004 01:56

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
The average FPS gamer should be playing on vet. Medium is too easy, and nightmare is too difficult. I heard that your HP is capped at 25, and if it goes over it slowly drains to 25. And theres no medkits on the ground, only source of HP is those things on the walls.

Hopefully the critters don't also respawn. That would make it nigh impossible. On Doom 1 even with a buddy I don't think we could ever get past the fourth or fifth level on the first episode.

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 07-08-2004 02:47

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
nightmare is gonna be like the old doom imposible to beat.

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 07-08-2004 08:32

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
i am prolly gonna have nightmares cause of this game :/

i cant get past the part where you have to fix the reactor :'(

TruB 07-08-2004 11:09

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
its the same over and over again with some diffrences here and there.. i only feel a bit unconftible when i stop and start looking..

biohazerd87 07-08-2004 13:25

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This is one of the first games that supports Dolby Digital 5.1 or 6.1 and trust me when that is on, the game isn't scary but things scare the shit out of you with it lol. Like your walking along all the sudden there is a guy wailing on your head from behind you and you can hear people walking behind you. Or those voices, man those are freaky. I like you Mike (Micheal Carmak creator of doom), what f*cked up part of your brain did you get these monster from? LoL

g4s 07-08-2004 16:25

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
I spent two nights finishing the game. Deleted the game immediately after that and I think I would never play it again. The hardware requirement is bullsh*t. I got a 3.2 cpu (overclocked), 1 gig ram, ati radeon 9800xt vid card (overclocked), and I cant even play the game under 800*600. It just freezes sometimes and got slower during heavy fight. And the thing I dislike the most is that the game scared the shit out of me!

This could be the first time I play doom, well I tried before, but never got into it coz I'm not interest in any monster games at all. Also I just finished Far Cry by 2 nights, comparing with doom, maybe all of the 3d games out there, it is amazing, impressive. well, for doom, its just my own opinion, don't know why it is so popular.

-=RAV=-AdrianShephard 07-08-2004 16:32

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
some people may not know this.. DOOM 3 has issues with ATi cards. as it was built of off nvidias system, and iD actually recomends nvidia i have a geforce fx 5700 "LE" low end. not the greatest card its half the punch of a normal 5700 and i run it under 1028 x 758 or whatever resolution it is i dont remember. i run it on high not "ultra high" with a 2.8 proccy 512 ram and its only laggy when i get into alot of detail and it has only lagged once.

I am using Digital Surround sound USB speakers :D so the sounds friggin make me jump out of my seat last night i was laying in bed for 3 hours afraid of a imp coming at me!
o_O

biohazerd87 07-08-2004 19:47

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=RAV=-AdrianShephard
some people may not know this.. DOOM 3 has issues with ATi cards. as it was built of off nvidias system, and iD actually recomends nvidia i have a geforce fx 5700 "LE" low end. not the greatest card its half the punch of a normal 5700 and i run it under 1028 x 758 or whatever resolution it is i dont remember. i run it on high not "ultra high" with a 2.8 proccy 512 ram and its only laggy when i get into alot of detail and it has only lagged once.

I am using Digital Surround sound USB speakers :D so the sounds friggin make me jump out of my seat last night i was laying in bed for 3 hours afraid of a imp coming at me!
o_O

I hate to tell you man but it was actually built on the ATI 9700 FireGL card;) ;) ;) But I won't tell anyone hehehee

And G4S I don't know why you would lag like that i bet it is heat isssues or your drivers arn't up todate. Cause I am running:
P4 2.8Ghz Prescott Core 800 Mhz FSB and Hyper Threading OC to 3.2 Ghz
ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe MB
ATI Radeon 9800 XT
Kingston 512MB DDR 3500 RAM
2 Rapor Sata Drives
And it runs fine on medium and high quality on 800x600 or 1024X768

HangFire 07-08-2004 20:30

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by g4s
I spent two nights finishing the game. Deleted the game immediately after that and I think I would never play it again. The hardware requirement is bullsh*t. I got a 3.2 cpu (overclocked), 1 gig ram, ati radeon 9800xt vid card (overclocked), and I cant even play the game under 800*600. It just freezes sometimes and got slower during heavy fight. And the thing I dislike the most is that the game scared the shit out of me!

This could be the first time I play doom, well I tried before, but never got into it coz I'm not interest in any monster games at all. Also I just finished Far Cry by 2 nights, comparing with doom, maybe all of the 3d games out there, it is amazing, impressive. well, for doom, its just my own opinion, don't know why it is so popular.

Something is serisously wrong then with your PC. By the specs you posted, your is about a 1/3rd better than mine, but I can play the game even at 1024x768, and I have an ATI card also.

Theres a lot of reasons its popular. First of all, its Doom, and its by ID Software. That automatically makes it popular, no matter if its the greatest thing ever. Aside from that the graphics are excellent, it has good atmosphere, and it feels like the original Doom. Gamers for the mostpart are a nostalgic bunch.


Everyone will have different tastes for games. Doom 3 is the best FPS I've seen since Half-Life, but thats my opinion. Max Payne 2 and Call of Duty were both good, but they were shamefully short. Painkiller was a rip-off of Serious Sam's gameplay. And I disliked that gameplay. Clive Barker's Undying was probably the second best since Half-Life in my opinion.

Theres a lot of other FPS games out in that time frame that I didn't mention, but nothing I liked. Far Cry didn't impress me much and I got tired of the game five minutes into the demo. You can't please everyone with a single game, no matter how good it seems to the majority.

biohazerd87 07-08-2004 20:41

Re: Doom 3 first impressions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HangFire
Something is serisously wrong then with your PC. By the specs you posted, your is about a 1/3rd better than mine, but I can play the game even at 1024x768, and I have an ATI card also.

Theres a lot of reasons its popular. First of all, its Doom, and its by ID Software. That automatically makes it popular, no matter if its the greatest thing ever. Aside from that the graphics are excellent, it has good atmosphere, and it feels like the original Doom. Gamers for the mostpart are a nostalgic bunch.


Everyone will have different tastes for games. Doom 3 is the best FPS I've seen since Half-Life, but thats my opinion. Max Payne 2 and Call of Duty were both good, but they were shamefully short. Painkiller was a rip-off of Serious Sam's gameplay. And I disliked that gameplay. Clive Barker's Undying was probably the second best since Half-Life in my opinion.

Theres a lot of other FPS games out in that time frame that I didn't mention, but nothing I liked. Far Cry didn't impress me much and I got tired of the game five minutes into the demo. You can't please everyone with a single game, no matter how good it seems to the majority.

Nice! He is right I mean I remember when the original Doom came out and I am only 17 now. I mean back then it was the shit!!! And Doom players have been waiting a long time for one to come out!


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