bots skill doesn't change why
 

hey
my probleme is the bots skill all the specifics bots are born to kill and not to die
so when i start a game it's to strong for me so i test the stupid to see their gameplay and then headshot soo what's going on since when a stupid bot kills
can it be that it doesn't take in consideration the changement when i add a specifique bot ? if not what's the probleme

if somebody know plz help me

that's all folks

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

Yea..
we're currently trying to make the better bots, better, and the stupid bots, stupider...
the skill does change but there is little difference between the skills..

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okey thats cool

yeah but the difference is how they move but not how they aim or shoot i can't move my finger to shoot him that i'm already dead so like i said that's cool that your working on that can you just tell me when you'll finish this if you can plz

thx for answering me so quick

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

Yeah I noticed that the bots skill really is bad after the last dll I installed. This is even with minskill and maxskill set to 100.

It is as if they are playing with a ball mouse and when they move to target someone, there is a piece of dirt on the ball that is keeping them from actually targeting them and they blow an entire clip off into everything BUT the target, missing by 5 feet or more consistantly.

I used to have some trouble with the bots at 100 skill but it is nothing to go 60-2 in 30 minutes against them on a maps like Aztec, Inferno, Dust, and Dust2.

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Is there anything that I can do about there skill?

I mean it is bad (even when they are at minskill/maxskill 100). It is as if you are playing against a 2 year old that just pushes buttons and is not even looking at the screen.

When I first put PB on the server, I had people complaining that they were to hard and not fun to play against when I had it minskill 40 maxskill 60. Now at 100/100 everyone is a CPL player playing against someone who just bought a computer from Wal-Mart and decided to get CS as there first ever game.

I will be posting a demo soon to show you want I am talking about.

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

try http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotBETA.zip

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

Thanks I will give this .dll a try and post back in about a day or so on how the bots are performing.

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

HEY

it doesn(t change anything this dll beta i tested to put minbskill 0 and max 19 and in the game i add an stupid bot but always kill me i have to run like superman if i don't want to die he make's headshot 7/10 and in the botskill menu the headshot % of probabilyt is on 0

it's like the potbotskill.cfg is not taked in consideration our it doesn't run or something like that

that's all

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

recoil can make it go from shooting at legs to bullets flying at heads...
I really don't want to do it like CS:CZ where there's very unrealistic stupid bots aiming 10 feet below the person's feet and firing at 1 bullet a minute...

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OK the dll dated 07/14/04 has not changed there skill at all. It is as described in my previous post. Now we have some good players on our server and some very VERY poor ones (majoity of the server) but no matter what, they both can rack up enourmous K/D ratios against bots on a single 30 minute map.

When I just go into the server by myself and am playing a 4v4 (me and 3 bots vs 4 bots), my teamates that are bots will have negative K:D Ratios but the four bot opponents will have rediculous scores of 2-15 , 2-14, 4-13, and 3-16 with my score being 60-2.

I do not know what has gone south but it did not used to be like this when I first installed PODbot back in late June and myself and others were challenged by the bots and many people cried for me to lower there skill when it was min/max of 40/60. Those same people did not become world championship players in a month and can now play against min/max 100/100 and whoop them like they are 4 month old infants playing the game.

Anyhow, I just downloaded and installed the dll that is dated 07/15/04 and will report back in about a day.

I really wish I had the know-how to help you out more with this but all I can do is keep testing the dll's and reporting my findings.
What I am talking about is not recoil rather really poor targeting. I will post a demo sometime....it is quite funny when aztec is on and you can rush DD with your knife out as T and never take it off, have 3 bots standing in the middle (top of steps area) and run at them and just weive from the left and right and eventually run past them all (as the are reloading after blowing there clips into no where) and still have 70 HP.

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what are your system specs? (the server with bots specs)

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• Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition
• Intel P4 2.8c with Hyperthreading Enabled
• 800MHz Bus Speed
• Intel 875 Chipset
• 36GB 10,000RPM Ultra160 SCSI Drive
• Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI Controller
• 1GB PC3200 (DDR400)
• Full 6Mb/6Mb Dedicated Connection

Running the CS server is the only thing that this powerful machine is used for.....nothing else at all.

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Can I connect and see?

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Sure...............

216.169.164.120:27015

It is an East Coast USA Server so I do not know how you will ping.

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I see...
You have the complete opposite problem HuntaKillaz has...
What FPS does your server get?
do you have a plugin like booster or something?
because your computer is going so fast that their aiming is slow..
and HuntaKillaz computer was going so slow that their aiming is fast... so fast that it would never lock on target..
this botaim code needs a fix up...

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Well I am using Booster v2.40 (http://forums.unitedadmins.com/index...howtopic=38008) and have it set at default where the server will run at 200FPS however, I have been using Booster on our server for ages (years) and it was on when I starting using PODbot back in late June and the targeting was not a problem then.

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well now it is because this new more realistic algorithm needs the real frametimes..
booster doesn't really help pings... at least from what I've seen on other servers..

take off booster and tell me how the bots aim

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

I just took booster off the server however, something has just come up causing me to have to leave the house at 2:30pmEST...grrrrr!!!

You can go join the server if you like but I will not be able to report back till tomorrow sometime.

Thanks!

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k I just gave it a go and the bots are killers!
but.. wow.. I never seen booster make it playable across coast without lag because when you removed it I was getting 100 and up and before you removed it I was getting around 60...
I'll try to make the pod's aiming work with booster..

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Yes everything appears to be fine now with PODbot since removing Booster v2.40.

Since you have pinpointed this as a problem, I am going to actually test older versions of Booster because if memory serves me correctly, these problems between Booster and PODbot may have come about after I upgraded Booster from v2.35 to v2.40.

I will get back to you on my findings but as you stated, Booster is great and when you have time, see if you can get the two to work together. You seen how much is lowered your ping when it was on and how much it went up after I disabled it and we are talking about you on the West Coast connecting to an East Coast Server (Located in PA) that is not even close to any major Internet Backbones in terms of routing.

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Just to report in...........

I have tried a bunch of different Booster versions and went all they way back to v1.70 as well and they all did the same thing I described in this thread before.

This is a major change because the two used to work together flawlessly.

Just reporting in like I said I would.

Re: bots skill doesn't change why
 

yea I'm trying to make them compatible right now..
I'll give you a binary to test sooner or later..

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Thanks...........there is no hurry so do not feel like I am rushing you.....just glad I could give you some input to help out.