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Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 02:22

Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Hello,

I am running the latest podbot_mm.dll that was dated 06/29/2004 on my CS dedicated server.

I have used a few of the versions that were dated before this and I get the same result.........

The bots will never zoom any of the sniper rifles and worse yet, they will not attempt to no scope enemys or switch to the pistol.

I have disabled BOT buying of all sniper rifles so that they at least do not start out with them but even when I set maxweaponpickup to 0, they still pick up the darn things. I have even put all of the sniper rifles at the bottom of the priority list and again, they are still picking them up.

I have seen some posts where people reported that the bots do in fact zoom and shoot but I have not seen it yet. I have also read the same reports that I have found.

I mean, the only reason I have done the measures above is because what good is just having a BOT running around if it is not going to shoot? I would love to have them use the sniper weapons but I am at a loss here.

TIA for any feedback.

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 02:32

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

try awp_map...
they will scope and shoot..
they will only scope if the enemy is far enough..
as for them not shooting.. I dunno...

Huntkillaz

02-07-2004 02:47

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

this is an age old bug i mentioned a few time but didn't put much emphasis on, it been since pmb's codeings

-bot's will zoom but rarely (bots need to zoom for enemy as well as checking for enemies far away)

-bots never switch to pistols which scoped wepons...(they need to do so when runnng and when enemy is near)

i think if it wrks on the awp map....then the distance is set too far for the enemy and so u will not proabaly see it happen on other maps

there should be 3 levels :

ie: for de_dust ct standing at top of ramp at ct spawn with awp\pistol..

t anywhere on or ner begining of ramp ct should use pistol
t anywhere between beg of ramp and arch pistol or zoom1
t anywhere further than arch zoom1 or zoom2

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 02:52

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

no...
I've seen them zoom all the way when the CT at that sniper camp spot and when T at the double doors on the other side..

Huntkillaz

02-07-2004 03:05

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

no...
I've seen them zoom all the way when the CT at that sniper camp spot and when T at the double doors on the other side..

yes they do zoom but not always......and the never use pistols

or even drop the scoped guns on de_rats i saw 2 bots tyring to grab the ak47 and a m4A1 but they never droped thier scoped wepons so they just kept jumping up and down on the gunsand going in circles

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 03:12

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

the reason for that is that they keep trying to switch to their primary so they can drop it but something else is making them switch to a different gun..

Huntkillaz

02-07-2004 03:21

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

the reason for that is that they keep trying to switch to their primary so they can drop it but something else is making them switch to a different gun..

they already had thier primarys out which is why i was confused and the were standing infront of the gun they want but couldn't get it....

i'll try do some testing on this later.

but yeah i think the pistol switch definetly needs to be fixed...

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 03:35

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

I've seen it happen..
it's when you see them switching weapons very rapidly while jumping up and down on top of another weapon...

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 07:39

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

try awp_map...
they will scope and shoot..
they will only scope if the enemy is far enough..
as for them not shooting.. I dunno...

We do not play awp_map and do not want to run it just because that is a map that the bots actually zoom on.

I have been running PODBOT on our server since you showed me the way sPlOrYgOn and we only run aztec, dust, dust2, and inferno and no one has *ever* seen the bots scope with a sniper rifle, shoot the sniper rifle without the scope, or even change to a pistol when the primary is a sniper rifle.

If it cannot be fixed or is not an issue that is being looked at, can you give me some input as to why a bot will drop an AK/M4 and pick up an AWP when this is what our botweapons.cfg looks like (the spaces between 12 and 25 are not really there.....it is just a forum thing I guess)?

Code:

# Standard Weapon Tab for CS & DE Maps

[STANDARD]

-1,-1,-1,2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,2,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,0,1,0,1,1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1

 

# Weapon Priorities for a Normal Standard Bot

[NORMAL]

0,1,2,3,4,6,5,9,13,17,16,14,18,19,15,7,8,11,10,12,25,20,21,22,23,24

# Weapon Priorities for an Agressive Bot

[AGRESSIVE]

0,1,2,3,4,6,5,9,13,17,16,14,18,19,15,7,8,11,10,12,25,20,21,22,23,24

# Weapon Priorities for a Defensive Bot

[DEFENSIVE]

0,1,2,3,4,6,5,9,13,17,16,14,18,19,15,7,8,11,10,12,25,20,21,22,23,24

and why if I have this set like this:

Code:

# This value sets the maximum number of weapons Bots are allowed to

# pickup during one round

maxweaponpickup 0

Why do bots still pick up different weapons when I am saying they are not allowed to pick up any. This is my combatant to them not shooting the AWP. If I restrict them from buying it which that is working, I do not want them to pick up AWP's if they are going to just run around aimlessly with them and just be a target. But I still do not know why they would pick up an AWP or any scoped rifle because as you can see, I have them at the bottom of the priority list.

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 07:58

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

I see...
this code would make it so that if you set maxweaponpick up to lets just say 4 it would allow the bot to pick up 5...
1 more than what was specified..
fixed now....

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 08:02

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

I see...
this code would make it so that if you set maxweaponpick up to lets just say 4 it would allow the bot to pick up 5...
1 more than what was specified..

OK I see.....so when I set it to 0, it is really allowing them to pick up 1 weapon and is pooping my attempted work-around for Sniper-Rifles.

Anyhow, even if I have it at 0 and they can pick up 1, why are they picking up scoped guns when I have them at the end of my priority list?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

fixed now....

What is?

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 08:09

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

it doesn't seem to use the priority list for picking up weapons..
only for buying..
this needs changing..

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 08:14

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sPlOrYgOn

it doesn't seem to use the priority list for picking up weapons..
only for buying..
this needs changing..

OK thanks for hearing me out.

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 08:18

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

sorry it does use their preferences...
but it uses them backwards...
so right now the sniper rifles on your server are the most valueable to pick up :D

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 08:21

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

So for buying, is used them in the order I have them listed but for picking them up, it uses them in reverse order........that is just wrong.

sPlOrYgOn

02-07-2004 08:23

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Code:

int BotRateGroundWeapon (bot_t *pBot, edict_t *pent)

{

   // Compares Weapons on the Ground to the one the Bot is using



   int i;

   int iHasWeapon = GetBestWeaponCarried (pBot);

   int *ptrWeaponTab = ptrWeaponPrefs[pBot->bot_personality];

   bot_weapon_select_t *pWeaponTab = &cs_weapon_select[0];



   int iGroundIndex = 0;

   char szModelName[40];



   strncpy (szModelName, STRING (pent->v.model), 40);



   for (i = 0; i < NUM_WEAPONS; i++)

   {

      if (FStrEq (pWeaponTab[*ptrWeaponTab].model_name, szModelName))

      {

         iGroundIndex = i;

         break;

      }



      ptrWeaponTab++;

   }



   // Don't care for pistols

   // TODO Include Pistols as well...

   if (iGroundIndex < 7)

      iGroundIndex = 0;



   return (iGroundIndex - iHasWeapon);

}

should probably be

Code:

int BotRateGroundWeapon (bot_t *pBot, edict_t *pent)

{

   // Compares Weapons on the Ground to the one the Bot is using



   int i;

   int iHasWeapon = GetBestWeaponCarried (pBot);

   int *ptrWeaponTab = ptrWeaponPrefs[pBot->bot_personality];

   bot_weapon_select_t *pWeaponTab = &cs_weapon_select[0];



   int iGroundIndex = 0;

   char szModelName[40];



   ptrWeaponTab += NUM_WEAPONS;

   strncpy (szModelName, STRING (pent->v.model), 40);



   for (i = 0; i < NUM_WEAPONS; i++)

   {

      if (FStrEq (pWeaponTab[*ptrWeaponTab].model_name, szModelName))

      {

         iGroundIndex = i;

         break;

      }



      ptrWeaponTab--;

   }



   // Don't care for pistols

   // TODO Include Pistols as well...

   if (iGroundIndex < 7)

      iGroundIndex = 0;



   return (iGroundIndex - iHasWeapon);

}

that should fix it :D

[edit]
heres the dll with the above fix
http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotBETA.zip
[/edit]

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 08:29

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

***EDIT***

Thanks!

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 08:46

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Do not know what it is but I am getting memory errors with this new dll 8 seconds after the initial CS Server startup or if by some stroke of luck it does not bomb, it will bomb on the first map change. This was not an issue with the 06/29/04 dll.

If I comment out the dll so it does not load, the server works fine.

Can you link me to the 06/29/04 version again or sort this out as I have overwritten the 06/29/04 with the version you posted above?

TIA

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 09:35

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

***Bump***

Delete this when you read my above post please.

Burnt Powder

02-07-2004 20:58

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Does anyone have a link to the to the 06/29/04 DLL that I can use for the time being till this is sorted out?

KWo	03-07-2004 00:09

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

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Please - be more patient. I've send a message to sPlOrYgOn with this info 14h ago . He compiled this beta at the end of his evening (before going to sleep) and probably without tests. It's my mistake because before generating this dll I asked him if he included something and probably he included this but without tests (he has not time to this). He was working at this bot all yesterday's after noon and all evening. My other mistake is - I had to ask him to create a new place for some beta only for me and my tests...

[EDIT]
Take this dll You wanted. I'm not sure if this is exactly this one...
[/EDIT]

sPlOrYgOn

03-07-2004 01:15

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Sorry guys...
it was the picking up prefs that i screwed up on..
I added too much to the pointer...
well it's fixed now
http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotBETA.zip

Burnt Powder

03-07-2004 01:46

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

No worries and I am sorry if I came off as impatient.

My last two posts were about 12 hours apart and I was not attempting to push anyone into fixing it, just wanted to old DLL because I knew that worked and my server was seeing no traffic because no one joins a server that does not have players in it (real or bots).

Thanks again and I appreciate everything you guys are doing.

Again, sorry if I sounded pushy but I did not mean it that way.

-bp

Huntkillaz

03-07-2004 03:27

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

did some minor testing on the new dll...

button code is slightly better, but they don't seem to push buttons at the right place..just nearby the wp....maybe make em stand excatly on the wp with the button flag .make em press 'use' and wait 1 sec b4 they move again???

that weapon drop bug seems to become bigger now alot more of them started jumping up n down for the weapon they want???:(

i think u guys should use de_rats for testing both of these since it seems to happen alot.

sPlOrYgOn

03-07-2004 21:55

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

damn I'm an idiot..
the preferences weren't reversed...
so what I did was just reverse it in that update..
I've changed it back to what it used to be so that they won't pickup their most hated weapons..
http://www.mapzap.org/files/podbot/podbotBETA.zip

Burnt Powder

05-07-2004 21:18

Re: Scoped Rifles...bots do not zoom or shoot them at all?

Just to let you know, I have been running the latest DLL for about 2 days now and everything seems great.....THANKS!

Only other suggestion/bug I would have at the moment would be to make the bots not reload when they only shoot 2 bullets out of a clip. I see so many bots shoot 2 shots, reload, shoot 2 shots, reload and so on. I do not know what this looks like but is it possible to have it be....if bots loaded clip reaches 30% full (70% empty), then reload.......and also not have it reload as soon as a human or other bot leaves its vision? <------(that is what is causing this shoot, reload, shoot, reload I think)?

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