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Pierre-Marie Baty 28-06-2004 02:09

another new rtcw bot
 
There seems to be another RTCW bot in the making...
http://rtcw.filefront.com/file.info?ID=24977
it was just for the info :)

Maleficus 28-06-2004 06:32

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre-Marie Baty
There seems to be another RTCW bot in the making...
http://rtcw.filefront.com/file.info?ID=24977
it was just for the info :)

Thats NOT for the game RTCW. Its for its offshoot Enemy Territory. ;)

Enemy Territory is built off the RTCW engine and basic design, but is very different. Its also 100% free to download and play! :D

To clarify - its NOT a mod for RTCW or a part of RTCW, it (being ET - ENEMY TERRITORY) was created by Splash Damage for Activision, and was going to be a full retail game that would go along with the RTCW gameplay and story. It was supposed to have a single player game that featured bots taking the role of teammates fighting along side the main character. Official multiplayer bots were also supposed to be included.

It was killed for reasons unknown (the speculation is that the A.I. sucked, and they didn't want to bother with it anymore). The multiplayer part of the game was pretty much done tho (with no bots however!), so in a gesture of goodwill, they just released what they had - Enemy Territory, A.K.A. ET. ET is strict multiplayer and only has 6 maps in it. The mapping/modding community is pretty strong tho, because its 100% free.

If you've never tried it, I recommend you do - it will only cost you the time it takes to download it! :)

AFAIK, there are 3 ET bots in the works. The one you pointed out is one of them. I can't recall the names of the others, but I've read about them here and there.

Right now, Fritz and the Ubersoldat mod are the only active bot mods for RTCW, AFAIK.

Minh-Lo-Hwang 24-07-2004 10:36

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
and the wolfbot ;)
www.planetwolfenstein.com/wolfbot

MarD 03-09-2004 17:43

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Heyyo,

I thought they stopped developping wolfbot??? err... yeah, their last news update was 02.11.2003......

Maleficus 04-09-2004 08:43

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarD
Heyyo,

I thought they stopped developping wolfbot??? err... yeah, their last news update was 02.11.2003......

Your right - they did: Wolfbot is a dead mod. :(

MarD 07-09-2004 18:12

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Heyyo,

Yeah, wolfbot came, n' then dissapeared not long later... But at least there's Fritzbot to replace it. :)

Fritzbot's like PODbot v2.6mm, and wolfbot's PODbot v2.5.. You can feel the improvements on the newer bots. ;)

Cheeseh 07-09-2004 19:35

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
argh that site is evil and is full of dialer pop-ups!

MarD 13-01-2005 18:29

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Heyyo,

I downloaded ET, and the 1.02 patch and gave bobot a go... bobot got pwned by fritzbot. ;)

ET is INCREDIBLE. The teamplay is rediculous guys! I mean, people actually WORK as a team, this's what CS used to be! :)

I was a medic, so I constantly layed down medipacks around fellow allied troops as we held down the bridge that led into a ruined town, while leutenants called in for airstrikes and layed down some ammo packs, and rocketteers nuked the crap outta an advancing enemy tank... wow... too bad bobot doesn't represent this. :P

A few upsides though is they tended to defend some proper spots, but they never used the machinegun entrenchments to totally nuke the enemy team which made it pretty easy to storm them most of the time by grenades (yeah, they don't run away from nades..).

I binded keys to the bobot menu buttons (wich were all in french), and ingame? nothing. I also then tried the addbot command, adds a random bot to a random team, but diddn't make their class random, or their username, or difficulty. So they all spawned as bobot, with 100% accuracy, and as engineers... the bot tended to try and climb hills that were impossible forever (probably just bad waypointing, but since the waypoint menu diddn't work and no console commands for it either, I couldn't do anything aboot it..), and the bots tended to not aim at what they wanted to build and diddn't build what they wanted to most of the time, and they wandered around randomly and died a lot... so yeah, now that I'm used to the bot standard that is Fritzbot... I think I'll leave ET for online play, and stick with RTCW for my botfix. ;)

Gatekeeper 14-01-2005 04:12

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
"/addbot <team> <class> <name> <skill 0-5>" is how you're supposed to add the bobots properly. Also, make sure you have the latest version, which is the .02 beta (not the 1.03 alpha). If you install it correctly your menu options shouldn't be in French (except, for some unfathomable reason, VIEW is changed to HUD).

Here is the latest version: http://returntocastlewolfenstein.fil...e/Bobots;31155

Also, make note that there are NO active bot mods currently for ET. So, I've come to troll these forums, waiting for the day that Fritz is ported to ET. Of course, you guys don't mind.:)

Maleficus 14-01-2005 06:22

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Mard: I have Bobots too, and they do have some odd issues, but they are a good start. ET is even more complex than RtCW, so you have to give them credit for being the first to create an ET bot. And some of the totally bizarre stuff the bots do just cracks me up sometimes! :D

Gatekeeper: There are also no other active bot mods for RtCW either. I checked the UberSoldat website recently, and it seems the coder has moved on to another game/mod project. :(

And I heard about the Bobot team losing one of its programmers and basically stopping production. :(

Other than a bot that is supposedly in the works for the ETF mod, it would seem Fritz is the only Wolfenstein based game bot left. :|

Fritz will probably be ported someday to ET (not until its done for RtCW tho), but in the mean time - have you tried it for RtCW? All constructive comments and suggestions are welcome!

And the new version should be in your hands around the end of Jan. or so (maybe the first week of Feb.).


Cheers!


btw: IIRC, someone told me that the 1.03 version of Bobots has problems running in Windows XP/2000. I've run it in WinME just fine, but in XP, nothing works (the menu, etc).

The Ghost 14-01-2005 06:30

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
i've tried the Bobots,but they seem to lag my computer so much that it's not even worth playing.

Gatekeeper 14-01-2005 16:08

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maleficus
And I heard about the Bobot team losing one of its programmers and basically stopping production. :(

Yep, and AIMod has been inactive since like April. ETBot (which never released anything but images) merged with OmniBot, which is producing the bots for ETF (which comes out tomorrow, methinks). Yep, I know my current events.

As for RtCW: I don't have it. I was always sort of turned off because everyone's saying stuff like "there are so many cheaters on the pubs" and that the only real play is in the competition (which is okay, but I'd suck). But, I'll probably grab RtCW for the Single Player soon (and possibly your Fritz bots too). Also because I feel like a nub playing ET without RtCW. ;)

[Edit] The thing about bobots though is that it's quite easy to create bot support for maps because of the easy node system. Unfortunately they're still not so bright, so they don't open doors or climb ladders well or anything like that. :(

Denny 14-01-2005 19:06

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
"AImod" is still in development, it's pretty descreate but the author released a new version not too long ago.
http://www.pcgamemods.com/6279/
This is where you can grab them, i haven't tried them out yet, but i hear they ain't too bad.

Gatekeeper 14-01-2005 23:37

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
I *think* (from what I've heard) the creator of AIMod is creating bot support for a certain mod (not ETF), and he's abandoned the AIMod, but I'm not saying anything. ;)

Also, that version is still quite old. It's got a few nice things, but the amount of glitches are (to me) unbearable.

Maleficus 18-01-2005 06:48

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Single Player RtCW is pretty good just in itself - the AI is sharp, made by the same guy who did the Eraser bot for Q2. You can usually find the "Platinum Editon", which includes ET, for under $20 US. Even less if you buy it used.

If your at all interested in Fritz, I recommend you try it first - for all you know, there is no bot, I'm just connecting to everyones computers with my friends and pretending to be a bot! :P :D


EDIT: just heard of a new ET bot: CCBOT. Just came out.

http://lprins.free.fr

MarD 18-01-2005 20:23

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Heyyo,

OOO! sweet find Mal! I'll have to test this now. :)

They seem to be made by some dudes who speak French! kickass. So that makes 2 french ET bots: Bobots and CCbot. Plus PMB's bot works... the french seem to love their bot coding. ;)

Denny 19-01-2005 03:22

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Does it have some sort of English option? No offense to the French of course but i can't understand their language.

The Ghost 03-02-2005 22:02

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
AImod released a new version a few days ago

Denny 04-02-2005 07:29

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost
AImod released a new version a few days ago

Got a link? or is it the same site i listed above?

HangFire 04-02-2005 08:13

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Which of these 3 is the most polished ET bot?

(I'm a lazy bastard)

MarD 04-02-2005 18:11

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Heyyo,

I'd have to say AImod. It seemed to be more smarter than bobots, but the last one I tried wasn't for the latest patch so it warped everywhere n' stuff, but since they released a new version, I bet it's for the latest patch, so give it a go! :D

bobots is good, but even on easy their aim's inhumain, perfect aim after 1 second...

The waypointing system is very basic on bobots, but the editing is hard. Couldn't figure out how to delete pathwaypoints, and it wouldn't save my waypoints (I'm guessing cause they were intergrated into the .pk3 file...).


My suggested place for RTCW files. ;)
http://returntocastlewolfenstein.filefront.com/

HangFire 04-02-2005 20:50

Re: another new rtcw bot
 
Thanks man, I'll fire up AI this weekend.


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