Nonexistent bot on player join
 

this matter was discussed before on serveral threads but appears noone wrote a thread for it

symptoms
when player joins, bot is kicked
hlds status show there is no such user
hlsw whows there is one person as <bot?>
scoreboard reports bots with name but makrs him as DEAD

but the bot is not in game, there is no way of kicking it with any plugin or rcon (they are reporting no such user)

but after map change all is back to normal (but there appears there is one bot not enough so when joining an returning will result in bot number decrease with the time)

this bug affects the hlds in general (when bot fingt when one is around)

there is way around with using any bot managing plugin of course, but i thing leaving this as it is not good thing. but as i said its not first priority, big bug.

on listen server i guess its not a cause :D cause there is at leas one user online


i will have to examine how th bot will behave without any plugins (and also test slot reserving addons)

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

Nie chcialo sie czytac, co? :D

On the second page of "BUG report" sub-forum:

http://forums.bots-united.com/showthread.php?t=1501

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

czytalem ale nie pamietalem gdzie to jest :D

pozatym tamten topic byl raczej flame'em a nie topikiem :D

thx anyway

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

english please, lads.

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

I agree... o_O a short off-topic remark in whatever language it may be two posters are sharing (Polish, in your case) is the last thing I'd protest against. But entire posts in non-forum languages... better reserve that for PM's, ok? ;)

Ansonsten gibt das hier die totale Verwirrung... :D
Translation:
Otherwise, total confusion will result...

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

Sorry - we had to explain something between us-self (me and KaszpiR). I said him - he is too lazy too search and read the forum - I was described that problem in the past in this very hot thread (do You remember it?...). He said me - he forgot this because that thread was rather a flame than a thread about bot problem.:D

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

and i dodn not used english to avoid another flaming :D

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

I think - This Your thread, KaszpiR, can be simply deleted. We have ask about this to Admin. Are You agree with me?:D

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

this thread should be kept open, but no more offtopic talking
[edit] just stop it :D

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

"Bo" or "beacuse" ? :D

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

Today I experienced new situation with this kicking - not kicking bot. I started DS CS1.5 with 8 bot (4 T and 4 CT). I connected to the game from my client computer. No one bot was kicked. I was looking at the scoreboard and at the next round start there were 5 CT (I was connnected as CT) and 4 T and no one bot was as dead. All bots were in the game. After this my colegue was connected and before seeing him as a spectator one bot CT was kicked. After few seconds I saw my colegue as a spectator at scoreboard. After - he joined to T team. I removed one T bot and he asked me why there are 5 CT against 4 T and I was much surprised, becasue at MY scoreboard there were 4 CT and 4 T. At my colegue's computers at his scoreborad there were 5 CT , but one bot (this one I saw as kicked) as DEAD. Can somebody explain this, how is this possible see another number of players at two computers in the same game????:(

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

hmm seems the info about slot is not cleared properly

Re: Nonexistent bot on player join
 

The problem is probably the moment of kicking bot. In the log I can see two moments of player's connecting . You can see this message "Player_Name connected". In the first moment, when player start joining - at his computer there is a list of players taken from server (with all bots and human-players). After this bot is kicked. After few seconds there is initialization and downloading the data from the server to the game on the client-computer of player. Then you can see him at your another player's computer as a player from some team (but before selecting team by him). After this you can see him as a spectator and after this there is a message "Player_name entered the game" and after selecting by him a team "Player name joined T (or CT team)". So - probably between conecting and entering to the game the players list from server is not updated at this player computer.
Maybe a fix for this bug can be - kick bot when player entered the game (as a spectator) - not when is conected?