Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok done some more work... the scroll bar looks like shit i just haven't gotten to change it yet... the PHP isn't set up on the server so it won't load PHP pages
so you can't view the score page or anything yet... i'll let u know when i fix that

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

Yeah, it doesn't suit the current template, but dude, that scrolling news thing is kickass, gj on that man. :)

the site looks a lot better btw, the organization on the waypoint downloading pages are much better, keep it up man. ;)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok i got the PHP working but i don't know how to get the echo or text taht apears after the action page to get in the div tag, not behinde it. if anyone knows how to do this help would be a great thing :)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

yay i got that working(thanks to splorygon) but i am still having problems with the score menu select

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok fixed all the php problems and i adjusted the scroll bar colors... make sure you look at a page that scrolls and doesn't... i still am not hot about the colors but we will see... i need to add the other waypoints for bots

[EDIT] OK joebot is up!![/EDIT]
[EDIT2]ok podbot 2.5 is up the forum link is up [/EDIT2]

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Nice work man, you're fast! :)

I just tried entering some feedback, just for the shits & giggles... the submit form seemed to work fine, only that it redirected me to the main index instead of the last waypoint list I had visited. And it didn't show the new comment / rating, but afair, we had agreed on checking comments before releasing them, right? Ans anyway, I suppose you'r still working on it...

I'm not too excited about the colours, and I'm not too excited about the width for the WP table being so restricted because that vertical line between the main frame and the menu bar isn't really vertical and the menu bar is a tad too fat. Same goes for that title bar...

Oh, and one suggestion: In that rating interface, it might be a good idea add a little info behind the "score" dropdown list - like "1=worst, 5=best"... just to avoid any misunderstandings.

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

<TEST>
This is without doubt the finest waypoint pack that has ever been released! :P
</TEST>
hahaha nice

but yea the reason the link redirects you there is cause i was in a hurry to see if the redirect would even work and i just wanted to test it and never got to change it back.... and about the colors.... :( sorry they don't work out... again i guess i can have the guy try to change them? and the size is the same way... the reason it is that size is cause originaly i was going to have flash buttons for the navigation bar but that fell thru cause of time... also if you have noticed that the template is exactly 800X600 to match that resolution and anything above it... because not too many people use 640x480 ... not saying that nobody does but that would be too small... and i didn't wanna go 1024x768 cause then people at 800x600 would scroll... a lot and i didn't want to make a 1024x768 auto resize cause it would cause lots of frame and scroll problems! so you see there is usually some reson i do things like this... kinda like waypoints... sorry if this isn't what you where looking for?:(

oh and i am willing to host the site at http://lan.crazymonkeycomputers.com that is if all the waypoint files and the like are still uploaded to the filebase and the links are added to the website... and we can even buy another .com and just use the file space...i am getting a good deal anyways... 5 bucks for 10 gigs of bandwidth and 150 megs of space..... so it's fine with me

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

There is one big problem I see with what you're doing..
making a page for each waypoint pack/file will make you end up with thousands of pages on your server.. and if you decide to change the design... you would have to edit each page...

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

not if i make a CSS and if you have a better idea don't point someone out and then not help

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

i changed the score thing so on 1 it says 1-Lowest and on 5 it says 5-Highest

i also changed the refresh to change you back to the list of mappacks that you are under.. so if you posted a score for podbotmm it will bring you back to the map packs page of podbot mm

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Well, I can live with the colours & stuff... I just think it would have been nice to have a bit more space for the waypoint table so that d/l count can be displayed right on the main window. But depending on which font / font size we choose, it might still be included.

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

well i can fit it in there, but i was thinking about that... i don't wanna sound like a dick but... who cares about the download count... when i am downloading something i want to see the rating no the download count... cause if the ratings suck and it has a million downloads then taht means there are a million morons

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

guess where this last sentence will land... :P

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

You know, the reason behind was the possibility to sort waypoint files by popularity - like the maps on CSM. Of course that doesn't mean that the most popular file is the best. I mean, fy_iceworld is certainly among the most popular cs maps ever, but is it good? No.

Remember we can't choose our audience - wise people will know that 85% of the CS community is likely to be composed of morons, and that popularity rankings due to the judgement of 100,000 people, (85,000 of which are morons), can be happily ignored. But our 85,001st moron visitor might be happy about it.

Come to think of it, we could replace "sort by popularity" with "a moron's best choice".

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok good point lol

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

oh... ok at this time...i don't really wanna... but i would like only >BKA< T Wrecks and MarD to answer to this but do you guy have any suggestions other than the colors, dl counts, and other things of the sort? like should i add another bot section, should i change the layout of something, should i kill myself cause the site sucks the big one111!...etc???:(

[EDIT] And splorygon, i know you will take your own time, to tell me i suck and what ever i am doing is retarded and you have a better way but instead of helping you just decided to demise me, so your name is added to the list [/EDIT]

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

sPlOrYgOn's not despising you dude, he's just annoyed how people treat PODbot mm like a completely different waypoint format. I tried the waypoints with E[POD]bot, and yes they do work right. :)

Yo sPlO, can't you add like, the classic camp style, and then ontop add the variables to the new camp style that PM added? then there'd be like, no problems. All you'd really need to do is checks to see if your new variables exist, and if not I'd revert to the old style. I'm sure for other PODbot mods they'd not even worry aboot the new style if the old style was put in first, and since this change is small, I'm sure it wouldn't mess up the waypoint format for any bots. :)

[EDIT]
Oops, forgot to comment on site. it's coming along in leaps and bounds dude. I'm lovin' it. But the only thing I wish that could happen is that I'd be like you said where I'd strech/shrink to fit all screensizes, cause most people nowadays has windows xp and the smallest screen size it usually defaults to is 800x600. But most people love their screensize and rev it up to 1024x768. Especially us gamers, cause we're more into detail than the average computer users. ;)

For the waypoint pages, are you doing them all by html, or is it PHP? cause I know by html that'll be a little hard on ya cause you'd need to put them all in by hand, and tha'd take some time, and for now only you'd be able to do it cause I'm pretty bad at Html without a proggie like M$ Frontpage. :P

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

well i am using dreamweaver mainly cause i like the upload part of it... it's great... but the only pages that are in php are the review pages of the packs.. and the action pages of them but you never see those...
the other thing is remember if i didn't make it 1024x768 think how much i would have to scroll to see the page? and i know how we like our screen sizes huge mine is 1152 x 864... and at times it is even 1280 x 1024 but again... the scrolling would be really really annoying

but again i can chage it if you want

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Idiot question N° 1: One thing I'd like to know is why we're so bound to that template. I mean, how much does the template affect the actual code? On an HTML page, altered frame divisions would only mean a change of numbers... is it THAT different with the WP page?

Idiot question N° 2: Likewise, would it be possible to (a) make the top of the page less high so that it occupies less space, or (b) get rid of the bottom bar and put the content somewhere into the top part?

Idiot question N° 3: Would it be possible to apply the important parts of the code (i.e. the parts that define what the site DOES, and not what it looks like) to a cheap-ass, n00bish kind of "framesets made easy" page? Or are frames a no-no?

Concerning other categories: YES! HPB-Bot, GraveBot, well... all bots on BU, in fact. In the long run. =)

Most of all, keep it up - you're learning the stuff as you're coding it, and the site has made considerable progress so far - and at an amazing speed, too.

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

well the website is built around the template... and there is a frameset... the main section is the frame...... and i will add the other bots... so what you want is that you want the content page bigger? i think i can stretch the template to make it a little taller and wider if that works?

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

Sounds good man.

Ok, for the navigation bar, we can shrink that a bit (look at the indents onnit when you select it, tha's an inch we can give back to the main nav section. ;) )

And that bottom bar? yeah we can get rid of it cause we'll have a link section anywho eh? and if they're too lazy to not click onnit? that's their prob. :P

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

i am still confused on what you want me to do with the nav bar... just make it smaller? and i took the bottom part off and it looked like crap... if you want i can just expand the template height by about 100 more pixels which is more than the bottom bar is total

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

What I mean is clip off the left side of the navigation bar, and add that new space to the content bar so we can have a lot more room to put stuff there cause the Nav bar has a lot of empty space on the left we can use better. ;)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

well i can't just clip it off cause we still won't have anymore space for the content i would have to sctretch the other one too lol.... am will cut some of the middle out off the nav bar... then add that much to the content

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok the only page taht has been widened is the main page so if you visit any other pages they look goffey! but tell me what you think

[EDIT] Nah i lied, i changed them all :P [/EDIT]

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok i did some more updates this time i added all the bots that are in the filebase and moved the communication links to the bottom... check it out... and do you think that we should link all the bots websites or no?


[EDIT] made shrikebot and added 2 waypoint packs to it [/EDIT]

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

Heh, I just tried that name and rating system, it still doesn't record it, and the page glitch you talked aboot's still there. But I like the new fix, see how much extra content room we get? now it looks even better man. :)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Same here. Good work! =)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

the ratings are manually put in remember... cause we wanted to review them first so when you send submit a rating it sends it to the email wpbotsunited@gmail.com

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

Ohh right, heh, that probably explains why that diddn't work, it slipped my mind. :P

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

hmmm i really do think that most ppl browse the web at 1024x768

i browse the web at 1280x1024, and my mouse can fit into the white spaces in the sides :P


800x600 is really small


*cs bot\nav should be just CS Bot (since csbot only does nav meshes anyways)

otherwise it's pretty good

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

ok on the about page i am putting this message
First I would like to thank all the people who helped out! Brandon thanks a ton for the template, and Splorygon for helping me out with some of the code.

Waypoints United is a branch off of Bots United. At Bots United that is where the bots are made. But here we make the waypoints. Our goal is to make the best waypoints and let you give us feed back.If you would like to submit waypoints or ask us some questions just send an e-mail to wpbotsunited@gmail.com

yeah it sucks and yeah i wrote it in 5 seconds so if anyone wants to rewrite it fine with me

i also need a list of all the ***major*** waypoint contributers for all waypoints.
here is what i have so far:
>BKA< T Wrecks
SoUlFaThEr
Biohazerd87
Dead Bwoy
Edg3
Sluggy


i was also thinking about making a form people could fill out to request waypoints... eerr should we leave that for the site

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

a bit off topic but...
why is this thread in the pbmm section when it is a site for all bots?

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

i think cause it was intitialy for podbot but it spread and i don't know where else to put it and it is HUGE so moving it would be like taking an animal out of it's habbitat???:( :| ............ i think

and who is megahal?

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

dude, you're up for another BU quote rite now :D

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

i am??? where

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

Heyyo,

You and I are megaHAL, eh sPlOrYgOn? lol ;)

megaHAL's a special text chat well, "brain" that learns what us humans say and tries to implement them in their own sentences, it can do many language, and tends to write sentences quite well... but it doesn't have memory, and has a hard time learning stuff like simple math, and who's who. RCbot currently has it implemented, and I'm sure RACCbot has it too since PMB's the one who pretty much introduced the idea to the bot coders. I love megaHAL, makes chatting with a bot SOOOOO much fun cause I belive that the bot coder attempted to make the bot as annoying as possible, lol. It'll say stuff like, "Your mom got clanned pwned ya jabroni" if taught to say that, lol. Just read sPlOrYgOn's transcript with it, or download it yourself, it's a lot of fun. The first thing I taught some of the RCbot profiles is to say "Heyyo" and "Heyyo, how's it goin' eh?" ;)

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

LOL!
I imagine very well MarD's little bots spamming heyyo's all around the place indeed! :D

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

so is no one going to help me with the waypointers list lol

Re: Work on Wesite?
 

add TAZ and Count Floyd to that list for starters...