Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

I tried it anonymous, but it would not allow me to have access somehow:

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

It's not letting me get anonymous access. It says no such user and then asks for a password:

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Nova & Onno do some very great work at the moment. It seems to work now for RealBot although no-one can use the source yet:

- its not officially released
- you will need login in :P

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

listing of modules and downloading those works now ... at least for my account :)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

ok stefan, please check in again :)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Ok. I think it is time to update the wiki page.

I will use CVS for the project. I like it so far and once you know how to set it up and how to do it, it is not that hard to do at all.

All that is left is that there will be a special account for team-members who all use the same username and pass. I will update my news page with an url so you can apply as 'team member'.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

so you want anonymous cvs access allowed

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

anonymoys on the realbot source? No. I only want people to be able to use CVS on that module when they are a team member.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

ok, i will then edit the .perms file in the realbot folder, you should then be able to get the point, i will also add a realbot-cvs user (for your team) to the cvs system.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

signed up, just waiting now for My ADSL modem light to stop flashing so i can start using it

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

stefan, do you really want to deny read access to anonymous users ? I made the experience that the users often just browse the sources and send you an email then if they found an error, and this way they get into the team. So I would allow anonymous read access on the sources.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

^-- I second that

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

oh, i misunderstood. Read access is fine, by reading the source and finding bugs like that would also contribute.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

ok, it's now public readable

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Nice :) so, although not officialy released people can already take a look at the code i am working on to get WIP 10 ready :)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Yes, thanks, it's now public for read access. Now for some studying :)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

My opinion: you should have trusted sourceforge. It's got a way more intuitive system... this wiki stuff is ass-backwards... I for example can't find the source, compiled or not.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

well who said that code is in the wiki?
SF does not even have a wiki by default.
Berlios does: http://www.berlios.de/index.php.en, but they where down for some days, exactly the days stefan started to make realbot public...

like SF we use CVS for the code, and heck darn its even a SSL version of cvs we have, not cvs-over-ssh for developers, since we are no project hosting only organisation.

oh and please ask someone using sourceforge about "trusted" before complaining here, no particular good remarks i have heard of ...

the compiled source (which is then a binary) is in the:
REALBOT DOWNLOAD AREA

where else do you expect it to be?
(remeber, the source is in the cvs, like everywhere on "the net", not in the wiki, which is a communication and knowlege tool anyways)

cheers Onno


p.s.
@anyone else (e.g. Mr. President) http://www.berlios.de/index.php.en seems to be up and working as expected, perhaps take a closer look into moving bigger projects there.

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Thanks memed. you saved me from having i minor heart attack while writing a reply to that post.

Im sorry dude, but i only have 4 words for you:

:RTFM:

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

or just four letters..

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

yeah, esp. after a post from someone who managed to get it. not to speak of the bot development pak's in the filebase, which would allow anyone to build this bot on linux and windows (even a free win compiler is mentioned here in the forums).

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

yo!
just took a l00k at the current source:
no trivial thing... ;-)

and one needs hlsdk-2.3 and metamod sources to compile, uh?

hmm. is it worth trying? (i bet)
or shall i wait for the next binary?
how large is that hlsdk-2.3 anyway?
lets check...
(gasp...aaaargl)
hl_sdk_v23.exe 04-Oct-2002 23:49 112M HL SDK source
hl_sdk_v23_source.exe 04-Oct-2002 23:48 5.0M HL SDK source
hmmm... question is.. do i really need the 112M file?

loads of questions today... sorry ;-)

anyway...
cheers!
Best Bytes®,
Harry

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

what is it that makes the hl full sdk 112 mb in comparison to the source only? does the big one also contain a compiled sdk or is it something else?

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

omg, read my post, " ... the bot build pak's...in our filebase...allow anyone to compile.. this bot.."
/hint the link to the filebase is in my sig and in the upper right corner/
(the build pack includes the neede files of hlsdk and the sources of metamod)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

I dont understand what you are saying Onno, I have all the SDK stuff from the filebase, I just asked what it was making the size of the Full SDK so much bigger than the source-only. Is it because it contains a compiled SDK or maybe some extra's?

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

oh sorry got that totaly wrong :)
nevermind

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

np mate;)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

i saw the other threat ...
(yes i though your post was his)
sorry dude, once more

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

np at all mate;)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Are you an Aussie ? Coz the mate sounds like it. If yes, whereabouts in OZ r u from, coz im down here at the moment.

Regards,
Seb

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

jo... schulligung!
must have overlooked it.
i'll lower my head in shame...

Best Bytes®,
Harry

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

*g* what a nice ending for this thread,
we all just love bots don't we ;)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

No, I am sorry but I am not:( , I would have liked to meet you if I was down there though;)
I am Danish, I just love to say mate alot:D

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

MAN! i got it compiled...

i'd never compiled a dll before... how should
i know i had to use the dllwrap program? ;)
i used gcc 2.95.3-8 (from http://mingw.org)
and adapted the makefile...
it compiled like a charm! ;)

thanx again for your excellent work!
Best Bytes®,
Harry

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

You know, the 2.95 GCC is really old, really standards uncompliant, and really just plain bad.

Don't they have a MinGW based on the GCC 3.x series? I thought they did...although I'd love to setup GCC 3.4 on Windows. Sort of. I'm rather fond of my Visual Studio, actually :)

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

that was just a coincidence...
i had to fiddle so much; and first time i compiled it
correctly just happened to be with 2.95.3-8.
(i also have 3.2.x and 3.3.x)
do you think the code is gonna be hell faster recompiled
with 3.x? ;)

hmmm.. to your CTs get out of the fridge in de_rats?
do they climb ladders now?
(build is 3043)
sorry... i'm getting too far OT

Best Bytes®,
Harry

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

you are aware that gcc 2.95 is the compiler user for the kernel ? i think it does not meet the newest ISO C(C++ guidelines, but that is ok, is was developed bofore the newer guidelines came out. and as fas as linux is concerned, it the compiler to use if you do not have a 9.x distro. At least when it comes to stability and portability.

@Hacker Harry could you please share your modified files with us, so that the next one does not have to figure it all out himself again?
Thx

cheers Onno

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

no problem...
shall i dump my Makefile into this thread?
or upload it somewhere else?

Best Bytes®,
Harry

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

just zip and attach here, preferably with some sort of (minimalistic) guide to tell how to use it.
i will test it and put it in the CVS, in that case it will become part of the next release.

cheers Onno

Re: Open-Source , how to handle?
 

Affirmative ;)

i've added a few comment lines that should suffice...

Best Bytes®,
Harry