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Thanks for the tips on installing RB.

There used to be, but I took it out because when adding a lot of bots, the autobalancer would kick bots before they had a chance to join the game. Your best bet is to fix the problem of spec bots showing up.

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At times, I believe even when the bots die, they somehow are considered spectators in autobalance or they are jumping to spectate when they die. This never happens to humans and only bots at times. It may be my PTB teambalancer that moves people END of round and possibly when they die. What i notice when autobalance adds bots, they goto spectate, they dont pick a team until the begining of round according to the autobalance.

What I believe we need to figure out is why mEAn sees the bots as spectators or a way to get the bots to pick teams immeditaly. Or as a quick resolve, isnt there a master max bots setting? If not, that would fix this problem and more.

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any solutions?

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I'd like you to remove the PTB teambalancer and see if that solves the problem. That way we'll know for sure what is causing it.

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well drat, i'm sorry botmeiser but I cant even get it to do it anymore when PTB is running, maybe it was something else i changed/updated/removed... I'll notify you agian if it happens agian. Anymore after defraging the comp and killing spyware, I think it could run 8 realbots at the same time lol...

no big worries either even if the server crahses meanloader will restart the server unless RealBot has this funky round change thing some more where it freezes the server.

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It was probably a config setting or something. Glad to see you got things working.

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Nope I got it back agian, I disabled PTB, and then tried slaying a bot (simulating dieing), worked fine, but kicking a bot and having it rejoin during a round puts it into spec. See the slideshow below... In order to resolve this we need to make a global MAX Bots setting, Let bots spawn at any time in the round, Kick spec bots, or Force bots to a team, even when spec. (Bold = favorite)

Pic (animated, 3 slides, every 10 seconds, notes included):

http://members.cox.net/robbob3/other/slides.gif

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also is there a way I can set up HLDS where its not a steam server, I want to create a server on my lan. My problem is that not all my friends have Counter-Strike, and each steam account uses a cd key which only can be used once. Can I set up my server where you dont need to use a cd key in any way for clients to join? Or can we use the same steam acct since its lan.

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This may of changed, but when steam first came out you needed a steam id toplay on the LAN, which of course is nuts. Better take this to another forum for an answer. The steam forum may be best, or post in here.

As for the other problem of spectating bots, have you tried running your server without mean and adding bots manually? My guess is that mean is not the source of the problem, and that the bots simply won't join until the round ends and a new one starts.

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no its jsut bots in general, thats why this program needs a way to FIX it...
Making the global max bot setting would prob be the easiest to code though or even kick spec bots...