Help. Bots respawn in same place....

[Daiver]

Help me please, i don't know to do....
Look at this screenshot, and you understand the problem.
Sorry for my bad English.
http://www.myspb.net/video/cs_assault0006.jpg

[g4s]

omg, what the hell is that? you should take a screenshot on a brighter map, like iceworld or aztec.
are you using amxx csdm plugin? can you give more information about the problelm?

[Daiver]

Protocol version 47
Exe version 1.1.2.5/Stdio (cstrike)
Exe build: 21:35:06 Jul 7 2004 (2738)

Metamod v1.17.2 2004/08/20

Metmod:
Currently loaded plugins:
description stat pend file vers src load unlod
[ 1] AMX Mod X RUN - amxx_mm_i386.so v0.16 ini ANY ANY
[ 2] POD-Bot 2.6mm RUN - podbot_mm_i386.s vR2b43 ini Chlvl ANY
[ 3] Cheating-Death RUN - cdmod_i686.so v4.21.0 ini Chlvl Chlvl
[ 4] Fun RUN - fun_amx_i386.so v0.16 cmd ANY ANY
[ 5] ENGINE RUN - engine_amx_i386. v0.16 cmd ANY ANY
[ 6] Counter-Strike RUN - cstrike_amx_i386 v0.16 WO cmd Pause Pause
[ 7] CS Stats RUN - csstats_amx_i386 v0.16 cmd ANY ANY
7 plugins, 7 running

AMXMODX:
Currently loaded modules:
name type version author status
[ 1] Counter-Strike amx&mm 0.16 WO AMX Mod X Dev Team running
[ 2] MySQL amx 0.1 AMX Mod X Dev Team running
[ 3] Fun amx&mm 0.16 AMX Mod X Dev Team running
[ 4] CS Stats amx&mm 0.16 AMX Mod X Dev Team running
[ 5] ENGINE amx&mm 0.16 AMX Mod X Dev Team running

Currently loaded plugins:
name version author file status
[ 1] Admin Base 0.16 AMXX Dev Team admin.amx running
[ 2] Admin Commands 0.16 AMXX Dev Team admincmd.amx running
[ 3] Admin Help 0.16 AMXX Dev Team adminhelp.amx running
[ 4] Slots Reservation 0.16 AMXX Dev Team adminslots.amx running
[ 5] Menus Front-End 0.16 AMXX Dev Team menufront.amx running
[ 6] Commands Menu 0.16 AMXX Dev Team cmdmenu.amx running
[ 7] Players Menu 0.16 AMXX Dev Team plmenu.amx running
[ 8] Maps Menu 0.16 AMXX Dev Team mapsmenu.amx running
[ 9] Anti Flood 0.16 AMXX Dev Team antiflood.amx running
[ 10] Admin Chat 0.16 AMXX Dev Team adminchat.amx running
[ 11] Admin Votes 0.16 AMXX Dev Team adminvote.amx running
[ 12] NextMap 0.16 AMXX Dev Team nextmap.amx running
[ 13] TimeLeft 0.16 AMXX Dev Team timeleft.amx running
[ 14] Nextmap Chooser 0.16 AMXX Dev Team mapchooser.amx running
[ 15] Scrolling Message 0.16 AMXX Dev Team scrollmsg.amx running
[ 16] Info. Messages 0.16 AMXX Dev Team imessage.amx running
[ 17] Pause Plugins 0.16 AMXX Dev Team pausecfg.amx running
[ 18] CS Stats 0.16 AMXX Dev Team stats.amx running
[ 19] CS Stats Logging 0.16 AMXX Dev Team stats_logging.a running
[ 20] CS Misc. Stats 0.16 AMXX Dev Team miscstats.amx running
[ 21] Stats Configurati 0.16 AMXX Dev Team statscfg.amx running
[ 22] CSDM Mod 1.69 BAILOPAN csdm_mod.amx running
[ 23] Ultimate Gore 1.3.1 JTP10181/mike_ca amx_gore_ultima running
[ 24] ATAC 2.5.3 f117bomb & T(+)r amx_atac.amx running
[ 25] ATAC Config 1.1 T(+)rget/f117bom amx_atac_cfg.am running
[ 26] PsychoStats PIP 1.2 Stormtrooper ps_amxx.amx running
[ 27] Idiot Model chang 1.00 IJs amx_idiot.amx running
27 plugins, 27 running

[sPlOrYgOn]

maybe you just added more bots than spawn points and it'll just spawn multiple players on a spawn point causing the first ones to be spawned to die..
happens on aim_map alot and also a bunch of other maps that have a disease called spawnpoint deficiency..:|

[Daiver]

it`s cs_assault

what can i do ?

i try to add pause between addbot,
try different versions of pb 2.6 mm
i`ts interesting that different version of bot,
have different static result.

[Daiver]

some other game parameters you can see
on http://cs.myspb.net/server.php

[g4s]

uhmmm.... do you have a "spawn points config file" for the map cs_assualt under the dir "addons\amxx\csdm\"? by default, it is called csdm_cs_assault.cfg. check if there's no such file or it has only one line. the file should be something like
-617 2648 179 16 -22 0 0 -5 -22 0
612 2838 179 4 -127 0 0 -1 -127 0
660 1740 83 6 145 0 0 -2 145 0
-500 1639 179 8 5 0 0 -3 5 0
-662 1650 355 6 43 0 0 -2 43 0
-604 2847 387 9 -40 0 0 -3 -40 0
-1033 2537 387 7 -49 0 0 -2 -49 0
-1452 2177 51 14 -36 0 0 -5 -36 0
-864 660 51 6 152 0 0 -2 152 0
-1468 -399 51 9 93 0 0 -3 93 0
-2212 271 67 7 -13 0 0 -2 -13 0
-1549 2639 307 10 -90 0 0 -3 -90 0
-1056 -155 99 8 53 0 0 -3 53 0
-34 -147 51 11 51 0 0 -4 51 0
751 349 51 9 178 0 0 -3 178 0
675 618 563 12 136 0 0 -4 136 0
676 871 51 5 117 0 0 -2 117 0
645 2223 499 13 -127 0 0 -4 -127 0
-193 2195 563 10 -114 0 0 -3 -114 0
-139 1550 51 7 -98 0 0 -2 -98 0

[Daiver]

All files present with it full content.

[g4s]

so where were you and other human spawned after being killed? the same point?
if you guys are spawned to the same point, then it's probably not the fault of podbot, I would suggest you to ask this question at amxx forums. otherwise, erh... I have no idea. I have the respawn plugin too, but a modified one which is much different with the amxx csdm. if you would like to try it, I can send it to you so we can figure out if it's the problem of podbot.

[Daiver]

humans respawn in different places!

you can send plugin to DaiverDDD@yandex.ru
Thank You

[g4s]

you can send plugin to DaiverDDD@yandex.rudone
make sure you disable the original csdm plugin before trying this one.

[Daiver]

I tried, but i have the same problem.

Onw way to update server, bacause i have no other idea....

[Daiver]

Update server, same effect.

bot version R2b40 seldom

[Daiver]

Anybody help....

[>BKA< T Wrecks]

Why do you triple-post within 1.5 hrs instead of just editing your post and adding some lines? Unnecessary multi-posting clutters up the forum.

On topic: Did you try the usual routine, i.e. running only the basic plugins and podbot (or, if you can, just MM and podbot), see if it works, and then slowly reactivate the other plugins one by one? It might be a quirk in some plugin and not necessarily an error in the bot dll. At least it would help to get a clue where the problem occurs. Otherwise, I fear I can't help you because I'm neither a coder like sPlOrYgOn nor a superb bug-hunter like KWo.

[g4s]

well, you need to do a fresh install of metamod, amxx and podbot.
put only amxx and podbot in metamod plugins.ini and put only csdm in amxx plugins.ini.
if that doesn't solve the problem, I'm afraid that nobody can help.
good luck!

[Daiver]

i try to off any what i can
only metamod, amxmodx, bodbot, csdm - not effect

i downloadl last metamod sdk and src and
recompile podbot - not effect

when i change podbot from version R2b43
to old R2b1 - the problem disappear

bot bag ?

PS: change different versions of metamod - not effect
PPS: cvs not work :( where i can download source code of version R2b1 ?

[sPlOrYgOn]

amx and amxx has problems with detecting bots but amxx 0.20 will fix it so I suggest you get the preview release for it
and the next version of amx will fix detecting bot fuction..

[Daiver]

tried amxx 0.20, the same problem

bot bag ?

[sPlOrYgOn]

maybe you should contact BAILOPAN and ask him if his plugin does anything different between normal players and bots.. if not then it should be something in the bot dll that is doing something different than normal players and he is using that certain thing to detect something and it does something it's not supposed to or something..

[KWo]

tried amxx 0.20, the same problem

bot bag ? It was impossible to try with 0.20, because that time You posted, there wasn't any version really supported AMX MOD X 0.20. :D
But it's changed right now. Take AMX MOD X 0.20 RC6 from here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amxmodx/
(make sure You took the complete build and also addition for cs - You need download 2 files), take also night build (also 2 files) since 2004.09.23 from this location:
http://www.amxmodx.org/nightly/
and read how to upgrade from 0.16 to 0.20 http://www.amxmodx.org/updateguide.htm

Then - when You really will get this version amxmodx to work You can take CSDM from here (build 275):

http://www.tcwonline.org/~lambda/ (http://www.tcwonline.org/%7Elambda/)

install and then take "my" files I posted by me here, as an attachement. But - use it for Your own risk - is not recommended and not authorised by Bailopan (author). He deleted my post at amxmodx forum with these files, because of some possibility making crash the game.

Replace in plugins subdir csdm_mod.amxx by this mine (see link at the end of this post - after unzipping of course).

And have fun!

I didn't experience at all this Your problem , but it's maybe I've started to try with AMX MOD X 0.20

For me this CSDM is working with both CS1.5 and CS1.6. Also bots use some weapons now (the function random_num is funny :D ). 8)

[Pierre-Marie Baty]

More simply, Austin has released 32-player versions of all the official CS maps. The problem is that most maps don't have enough spawn points, and can't be played above a certain number of players (this is called "telefragging" - not a bot problem). Check out the maps forum here at Bots United, you'll find what I mean.

[KWo]

I've already asked Austin about this. You can see this here:
http://forums.bots-united.com/showpost.php?p=24509&postcount=4
;)
But even when I've put maxplayers 32 and max-bots 32 I couldn't reproduce this bug reported here on cs_assault map. :)

[Daiver]

to KWo:
may be i was wrong, but now
i install latest amxmodx, and your csdm, but
its not solve the problem :(

[Daiver]

http://www.myspb.net/video/de_dust0001.jpg

[KWo]

You have some extra settings setted up in amxx.cfg file or You use CSDM with all defaults values? Another think - that link You showed few posts before , to see the parameters of Your server - there is written type of server - Windows, but I see You are using linux versions of files like podbot and amxx. I'm confused now what exactly do You have. All i tested and tried was windows based. If this problem You have is only on linux system, in this case probably I can't help You. But we need some linux beta tester because of throwing grenade bug issue. If You want help us a bit - tell. Maybe there is something corresponding between this what You see and this grenade throwing bug. We have also some sources of pod from 2004.06.27, so - If You want - we can give You this version to try if You still see this issue. Another thing is this - what the value of maxplayers You put when You start the server? What the value You have as max_bots in podbot.cfg file?
Try also for test disable Cheating Death.

[Pierre-Marie Baty]

At last something usable !

This pic tells me that the map is de_dust.
The spot where two bots are melted together is the origin of the map, i.e, the spot which has exactly the coordinates (0, 0, 0). My bot's navmesh tells me so. 8)

So in short a description of your problem as accurate as possible would be:
"I have bots that respawn at 0, 0, 0".

This means that there are at least one info_player_start and at least one info_player_deathmatch entity at this very spot.

Do also humans spawn here or is it only bots ?
Do the bots also spawn erratically in other places (on the same map ?)

[sPlOrYgOn]

finally he shows us something useful...
no it's no spawn point there or anything..
it's because he is most likely using a linux server and that is the linux server bug with podbot...
it'll print a bunch of NaN velocity crap then teleport the bot to the origin of the map..
I don't have linux at home so I can't really fix this as fast as I want to but I got people testing some code on linux.
look in the other thread about "wierd error messages"